B-24 Liberator crash

[CARBJO]

On the 22. january 1944, an american B-24 Liberator aircraft crashed in the mountains of Norway. They had been on a bombermission in Germany,
and the group was attacked by german fighters, and the plane lost the group and got pushed far north.
Yesterday I got this part, which is from the B-24, hs been lying around at his farm since 1944!

It would be nice to know what kind of part is is? I personally have no idea The diameter is approximetly 10 cm.


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BJORN

 

[mjfur]

Based on geographic location it would be very odd for a USAAF B-24 bombing Germany to end up in Norway. Perhaps it was RAF Coastal Command?

The 8th Air Force did not conduct a bombing mission on Jan. 22, 1944. The Mighty Eighth Daily Calendar

Research | 8th Air Force Historical Society

www.8thafhs.org

Aviation Archeology shows only one B-24 lost on Jan. 22, 1944 and that was in Brasil. USAAF Missing Aircrew Reports - January 1944

 

[Snautzer01]

B 24H 42-52569 crashed Saksfjedgaard farm on the island of Lolland 9/4 1944.

B 24 GR8 KH410 crashed in Torstedlund Skov Forest 21/4 1945.

C CARBJO The location would be nice to have been given btw.

 

[CARBJO]

Based on geographic location it would be very odd for a USAAF B-24 bombing Germany to end up in Norway. Perhaps it was RAF Coastal Command?

The 8th Air Force did not conduct a bombing mission on Jan. 22, 1944. The Mighty Eighth Daily Calendar

Research | 8th Air Force Historical Society

www.8thafhs.org

Aviation Archeology shows only one B-24 lost on Jan. 22, 1944 and that was in Brasil. USAAF Missing Aircrew Reports - January 1944




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Thanks for your response! I will check more, and come back with the more detailed information I can get

B 24H 42-52569 crashed Saksfjedgaard farm on the island of Lolland 9/4 1944.

B 24 GR8 KH410 crashed in Torstedlund Skov Forest 21/4 1945.

C CARBJO The location would be nice to have been given btw.

Thanks for your response! I will check more, and come back with the more detailed information I can get Hopefully I will get a location. I have tried ChatGtp, which confirmed it was an american aircraft, but can be wrong since I used norwegian language.

 

[CARBJO]

Based on geographic location it would be very odd for a USAAF B-24 bombing Germany to end up in Norway. Perhaps it was RAF Coastal Command?

The 8th Air Force did not conduct a bombing mission on Jan. 22, 1944. The Mighty Eighth Daily Calendar

Research | 8th Air Force Historical Society

www.8thafhs.org

Aviation Archeology shows only one B-24 lost on Jan. 22, 1944 and that was in Brasil. USAAF Missing Aircrew Reports - January 1944




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FOUND IT - it was in 1945!

B 24H 42-52569 crashed Saksfjedgaard farm on the island of Lolland 9/4 1944.

B 24 GR8 KH410 crashed in Torstedlund Skov Forest 21/4 1945.

C CARBJO The location would be nice to have been given btw.

Got it through AI-Perplexity website:

The query appears to be mistaken about the date. There was no B-24 Liberator crash in Snåsa in 1944. However, there was a significant B-24 Liberator crash in Snåsa on April 7, 1945, as part of Operation Rype.

On the night between April 6 and 7, 1945, a B-24 Liberator crashed on Plukkutjønnfjellet in Snåsa, Norway. The plane was carrying extra personnel and equipment for Norwegian and American soldiers involved in sabotage operations against German transport in the Trøndelag region[3]. All 12 people on board perished in the crash[3].

The crash was discovered by Bengt Jåma, who noticed wreckage while traveling to Björkede. He found four bodies and plane debris, promptly reporting the accident to Gjevsjøen[3].

The next day, Major William E. Colby (later head of the CIA) and others went to recover the bodies. All 12 victims were buried near the crash site, and a memorial ceremony was held[3].

The aircraft belonged to the 492nd Bomb Group, codenamed "Carpetbagger," based in Harrington, England[3]. A memorial showing the names of the deceased was unveiled in 1949, initiated by Herbert Helgesen[3].

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The B-24 Liberator that crashed in Snåsa on April 7, 1945, was on a mission to deliver reinforcements and supplies to Allied forces involved in Operation Rype. The plane was carrying extra personnel and equipment for Norwegian and American soldiers who were conducting sabotage operations against German transport in the Trøndelag region[2][5].

Operation Rype's primary objective was to sabotage the railroad through Trøndelag and Snåsa, disrupting German military movements in the area[1][2]. The aircraft, belonging to the 492nd Bomb Group (codenamed "Carpetbagger"), was attempting to reach Gjevsjøen mountain farm, which served as the headquarters for the operation[2].

Unfortunately, due to bad weather conditions on the night of April 6-7, 1945, the plane crashed into the slope of Mt. Plukkutjonnfjell in the Snåsa district, resulting in the loss of all 12 crew members on board[5].

Citations:
[1] The crashsite at the Orkneys - Gjefsjøen Fjellgård | B24 Liberator | Operasjon Rype
[2] The plane crash at Plukkutjønnfjellet - Gjefsjøen Fjellgård | B-24 Liberator
[3] Divers Recover Remains of WWII Airman, 80 Years After He Crashed in the Mediterranean
[4] Accidents and incidents involving the Consolidated B-24 Liberator - Wikipedia
[5] Crash of a Consolidated B-24D-70-CO Liberator in Snåsa: 12 killed | Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives
[6] Consolidated B-24 Liberator - Wikipedia
[7] Lost and Found: The Story of 'Lady Be Good' and Her Crew
[8] Liberator B-24 Plukkutjønnfjell Snåsa
[9] Consolidated B-24 Liberator | Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives

Citations:
[1] The crashsite at the Orkneys - Gjefsjøen Fjellgård | B24 Liberator | Operasjon Rype
[2] Fil:B-24 crash seljord memorial 01.jpg – Wikipedia
[3] The plane crash at Plukkutjønnfjellet - Gjefsjøen Fjellgård | B-24 Liberator
[4] Consolidated B-24 Liberator - Wikipedia
[5] Skorve, Seljord, Norway | American Air Museum
[6] Accidents and incidents involving the Consolidated B-24 Liberator - Wikipedia
[7] Liberator B-24 Plukkutjønnfjell Snåsa
[8] Fil:B-24 crash seljord memorial 02.jpg – Wikipedia
[9] Crash of a Consolidated B-24D-70-CO Liberator in Snåsa: 12 killed | Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives
[10] B-24 Liberator crash
[11] The plane
[12]
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/AbandonedPorn/comments/n7p9r0/b24_liberator_engine_from_ww2_in_remote_norwegian/
[13] https://simpleflying.com/80-years-lady-jane-b-24-liberator-crash-norwich/
[14] Crash of a Consolidated B-24 Liberator near Seljord: 10 killed | Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives
[15] B-24 Liberator crash
[16] A PLANE CRASH IN 1944 IS SAVING LIVES TODAY

 

[CARBJO]

B 24H 42-52569 crashed Saksfjedgaard farm on the island of Lolland 9/4 1944.

B 24 GR8 KH410 crashed in Torstedlund Skov Forest 21/4 1945.

C CARBJO The location would be nice to have been given btw.

Based on geographic location it would be very odd for a USAAF B-24 bombing Germany to end up in Norway. Perhaps it was RAF Coastal Command?

The 8th Air Force did not conduct a bombing mission on Jan. 22, 1944. The Mighty Eighth Daily Calendar

Research | 8th Air Force Historical Society

www.8thafhs.org

Aviation Archeology shows only one B-24 lost on Jan. 22, 1944 and that was in Brasil. USAAF Missing Aircrew Reports - January 1944




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[Snautzer01]

41-23674 329BS / 93BG of Hardwick, Norfolk. Pilot: Packer, Leon C. Notes: landing accident. Location: RAF Upper Heyford, Oxfordshire, England England. Damage (0-5 increasing damage).

41-23674 (492nd BG, 'US Express') crashed and burned at Station 179 Mar 10, 1945 after nosewheel
locked on landing. Tail fin used to repair 42-40549

1. 41-23674 | American Air Museum
2. USAF Serial Number Search Results

They did not repaint the tail.

Now 42-40549 (492nd BG, 856th BS) MIA Apr 7, 1945, Plukkutjonnfjell Snasa,
Norway. MACR 13740

Former AAFAC Antisubmarine aircraft after 479th AG disbanned in late 1943, reassigned to VIII AFSC and then to special operations.

Her name was Cookie. Picture of her below.

42-40549 | American Air Museum

www.americanairmuseum.com

The engine in your picture is turned into a monument.

 

[Snautzer01]

Please do not move. Who moved it anyway?

I do not agree with given reason.

The crew of B-24 "Cookie" (42-40549) included:

1. 1LT WILLIAM H. HUDSON -PILOT
2. 1LT LEON G. DIBBLE Jr. – CO-PILOT
3. 2LT RICHARD A. BOSCH - BOMBARDIER
4. F/O ARTHUR. H. BARBKNECHT- NAVIGATOR
5. SGT GILBERT. F. MAGRUGER – RADIO OPERATOR
6. SGT FAYETTE SHELLEDY- GUNNER
7. SGT JACK H. SPYKER- GUNNER
8. SGT ANGELO SANTINI - ENGINEER

The Operatives of the OSS Norwegian Group on board included:

1. 1LT BLAINE E. JONES
2. T/3 ROBERT. N. ANDERSON
3. CPL KNUT J. FALCK
4. T/5 BERNARD N. IVERSON

https://www.fold3.com/memorial/664269233/iverson-bernard-norman-t5/gallery

https://www.fold3.com/memorial/657794816/barbknecht-arthur-h-fltoff

 

[mjfur]

42-40549 Cookie (V2) C (Thumb Nail PICS) CONST - COQ

 

[Snautzer01]

To the admin; bout my comments about the merge of threads.

Those are silly. My comments that is.

I could and should know by now.

Please disregard them.

I do apologize.

 

[Mike Wenger]

A bit off-topic, but as a Boy Scout in 1968 at Philmont Scout Ranch in New Mexico, my brother and I climbed up a steep mountainside (Trail Peak) to the 22May42 crash site of B-24D-CO, A.C. Serial No. 41-1133. Picking over the wreckage, I pulled off one of the supercharger covers and carried it around in my pack for the remainder of the trip.

I lost track of it (though I knew that I had it here somewhere), but then I found it in our attic last week while looking for something else. It's the only artifact I have from a specific aircraft where the serial, fate, and crew names are known. Wouldn't part with it for the world! I've always intended to get the aircraft crash report from Montgomery, but have never gotten around to it. Part of my frustration with that is that I was in Montgomery three times conducting Hawaiian Air Force research, but this B-24 crash just slipped my feeble mind.

 

[Snautzer01]

Consolidated B-24D-CO Liberator 41-1133 crashed on Trail Peak, Cimmaron NM, site of Philmont Scout Ranch May 22, 1942.
Flying in CCTS based in Kirtland Field, Albuquerque, NM. Pilot Redding, Robert O

The crew left Kirtland AFB (Albuquerque) on a training mission to Kansas City. En route, while approaching a mountainous area, the crew encountered poor weather conditions with strong winds and turbulence. The heavy bomber went out of control, lost height and crashed on the wooded slope of Trail Peak, in the Philmont National Reserve, some 20 miles southwest of Cimarron. All nine occupants, among them pilot Robert Redding, were killed.
Probable cause:The exact cause of the accident was not clearly determined but it is suspected that the loss of control was caused by microburst.

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