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Yes its broad, but like I pointed out its within different catgories, for example:
IMO the 8.8cm Kwk43 L/71 was the best AT tank gun of WW2. It fired a 10.2 kg Pzgr.39/43 (APCBC) projectile at a muzzle velocity of 1,000 m/s, being capable of penetrating 132mm's of armour laid back 30 degree's from vertical at 2,000m. Accuracy was phenominal in part because of the unusually high quality of the gun projectile but also because of the excellent high precision sights provided by Carl Zeiss Optik.
While it wasn't the most powerful gun to be mounted on a tank during WW2, that honour belongs to the 12.8cm Pak44, it nonetheless is the most powerful AT gun to be mounted on a tank with a rotatable turret during WW2. The anti personnel effectiveness of the 8.8cm round was more than satisfactory, but compared to a 12.2cm or 12.8cm round it was lacking, its real strenght lay in armour penetration where the high kinetic energy coupled with the narrow surface area ensured great armour penetrative performance.
The above was strictly about tank guns and my opinion on which is the best of WW2.
The next could be which fighter armament was the best ? Which infantry LMG or HMG was the best ? Which rifle, SMG or handgun was the best ? Artillery? etc etc...
You are absolutely right about the "dreaded" 88 . . . it is widely considered by many armament experts to be the best all-around tank gun of WWII. In particular, the KwK 43 L/71, as mounted on the PzKpfw VI Ausf. B, was probably the best tank gun of the War.
I agree with about everything except:
Air to air - I would always choose the 20mm MG-151/20 over the M2 as fighter vs fighter armament because of the much larger amount of damage caused on the target, a single hit from a 20mm MinenGeschoss being enough to rip an entire section of a wing apart. The 15mm MG-151 with its high velocity round (960 m/s) excellent ballistics penetration power was a very effective fighter vs fighter armament as-well. The M2 was nonetheless a very effective weapon for fighter vs fighter combat, benefitting from excellent ballistics and good penetration power. The 20mm Hispano deserves to be mentioned as-well, being a very effective fighter vs fighter armament.
I have no real argument, particularly as the German designers had to consider destruction of heavy bombers - whereas US did not really have that problem - and the M2 was more than enough for 109s and 190s. I wish the USAF had adopted 20mm prior to Korea.
As an anti bomber weapon nothing beats the 30mm MK108 MK103 though, with the MinenGeschoss it didn't take many hits to permanently down any US bomber.
Battle-rifle - The StG.44 hands down! To say it had no impact on the war is just plain wrong. The Sturmgewehr was many times the single reason some German units made it through the day alive, once saving an entire regiment from certain extinction, enabling the infantry to accomplish the otherwise impossible, punching through a USSR pincher made up of millions of russian troops. This was made possible only because of the huge firepower the StG44 provided the individual soldier.
Perhaps, but it was more a sub machine gun than a battle rifle with shorter range and stopping power - but a high rate of fire and surely the forerunner of the AK-47. Only 400,000 built and basicaaly introduced when war was lost. The M-1 came into the US inventory in 1935 and continued in service until 60's when M-14 replaced it. A better comparison is between M-2 Carbine with selective rate of fire and about same ballistics - I would pick the 44 always
This having been said the M1 Garand is definitely the runner up, with the G43 as a close third.
Bolt action rifles - the K98k hands downs because of its superior 7.92mm FMJ-BT projectile ingenious bolt design and top strength. The SMLE is the runner up and the Swiss K31 as third.
No argument, but the M-1 was simply a better battle rifle and rendered the bolt action obsolete
SMG - The MP-40 simply because it was as effective as the Thompson with the added benefit of being cheaper to produce. But in the ned its a matter of taste as the Thompson shoots faster while the MP-40 shoots slower but more accurately. It is debatable wether the .45 ACP packs a bigger punch than the 9mm Parabellum, but nomatter what both do their job well.
The M-3 was cheaper than the Mp40 - none of the above was 'accurate' with re4spect to the rifle so doesn't seem to be a factor under 100 yards with any of the above. As to punch, it isn't debatable to SOCCOM troopers who have thrown the 9mm away and replaced with the old 45. The 45 ACB continues to lead FBI one shot kill statistics... the 9mm is very far behind.
Having said that, you can carry more 9mm and easier to design magazines with more than 8 rounds and still comfortable. My personal 'bedside comforter' is a SiG 220 in .45, and next choice would be a SiG229 in .40. My wife like her 357 and the 9mm SiG is used for plinking and target practice.
LMG - MG42 MG34
Total and unqualified agreement
HMG - M2 no doubt. The MG42 MG34 both get honourable mentions here as-well though because of their huge effectiveness at laying down accurate deadly long range suppression fire, being refered to as a cannons by the Allied troops in Afrika.
Shipboard AA - The 4cm Bofors or the German 3.7cm SKC/30.
Anti Tank - The 8.8cm Kwk/Pak43 L/71 hands down, with the 7.5cm Kwk/Pak42 L/70 as a very close second, the 8.8cm Kwk36/Flak18 L/56 17 pdr sharing the third place.
IMO the Russian 7.62cm doesn't deserve a place on the list because it didn't prove effective enough from 1942 and onwards, and the US 9cm M1 3 hardly saw any service as an AT weapon during WW2.
Then you would have to strip Ta 152 from 'best fighter' contention based on same logic as well..(for the 90mm M3 - the M1 was in service in 1940) and the M3 was in action on the M36 Tank Destroyer and M-26 heavy tank in ETO as mobile AT plus longer in AA role in PTO and ETO. The ability to depress below horizon was intriduced in 1943 which made the AA version a dual AA/AT. The radar proximity fuse made it very effective for AA from 1944 forward
Medium Artillery - I'll go for the Rheinmetall 10.5cm leFH 18(M) with its excellent accuracy, long range and high RoF. The US 10.5cm M2 howitzer is the close runner up. The 8.8cm Flak18 gets an honourable mention as it proved very effective as medium artillery, and the plunging angle wasn't an issue as it depended on the firing angle.
I could argue but won't as they are very close in all respects
Heavy Artillery - The 17.3cm Kanone 18 Mörserlafette, with the US 15.5cm Long Tom as the runner up.
Last, I would go with the 1911A1 for personal sidearm. If the SiG 220 existed then I would favor it due to double/single action feature as well as de-cocking. I've never 'lost' a round in the .45 due to manually releasing the hammer - but the SiG/H&K features are outstanding... 70 years later.
The Browning 9mm Hi Power and P-38 would be close seconds for me.
Totally agree with you about the M1911A1; I think it's the best personal sidearm in history. As much as I like the P08 Luger for it's looks, it wasn't terribly reliable, and it only fired a 9mm round (not much stopping power). To this day, certain branches of the US unconventional warfare armed forces prefer the 1911 over any other sidearm, even the newer 9mm jobs (like the SiG-Sauer 250).
I have a Wilson 1911A1 which is unbelievably accurate and I replaced it with the SiG 220 only for the reasons I mentioned above plus it was almost a one holer at 15M with factory rest - I would not give up either willingly.
The Wilson is sub 1" at 25 yards with 5 and the 220 about 1 1/2 (Machine rest - I don't shoot pistol THAT well)
The other reason I favor the 220 is ability to keep one in the chamber, hammer down, and use it in double action- essentially as safe as a double action revolver.
We are close, Soren - and I think personal preference, without great distinction on performance, is a separator.
I like the StG 44 as a great design but do not classify the weapon as a 'battle' rifle, nor would I have a separate category for 'bolt action'
If there is an 'asault rifle' category then the StG 44 is hands down over the M-2 Carbine, but in retrospect I lump the 44 in with Thompson and Mp-40 and give it the edge there also.
Last, I would go with the 1911A1 for personal sidearm. The Browning 9mm Hi Power and P-38 would be close seconds for me.
I choose the 10.5cm LeFH 18/40 over the 10.5cm M2 because it possesses a longer range according to reports better accuracy than the M2 howitzer. I choose the 17.3cm Kanone 18 over the 15.5cm Long Tom for roughly the same reasons and because the Kanone 18 fires a more potent shell further while hthe weight of the two guns are quite similar.
Always the question of 'reports' - I'm willing to be educated - what reports?
The StG44 can be considered a battle rifle as its effective range is beyond 700m at which range steel helmets were easily penetrated, and the fact that it can be fired controllably at full automatic (500rpm) makes for alot of firepower.
Great weapon - not considered a 'battle rifle' in WWII even thogh it would have been a good 'single choice' to arm everyone except snipers... but it is a matter of semantics and not worth a big argument over
The reason the MP-40 is more accurate than the Thompson is because its far more controllable at full automatic fire, the MP-40 is infact one of the most controllable SMG's on full auto even to this day.
I really don't have a problem with your controllable thesis. I fired a lot of roounds through the Thompson - like it but have to shoot short bursts to control it. But it is controllable that way
And when I say that its debatable wether the .45 ACP packs a bigger punch than the 9mm arabellum it is because the KE of the 9mm is infact higher, giving the 9mm parabellum better penetration capability. In terms of stopping power with expanding bullet the .45 ACP is the best, hence the SOCOM reports, there's simply more surface to immediately dump the energy of the round inside the target. There's no difference between a .45 ACP FMJ bullet and 9mm FMJ bullet in terms of stopping power, the 9mm just possesses slightly better penetration power.
The sectional density and 100gr extra makes a huge difference in stopping power..the KE of the 9mm was slightly higher because of velocity but too much civilian data on 'killing power' distinctions between the two to consider 9mm 'equivalent'. In FBI crime statistics of military rounds, the .45 is a clear winner with no close second
The M-2 Carbine doesn't qualify as an assaukt rifle though, its round isn't intermediate and features far poorer ballistics than the 7.92x33mm Kurz round, plus the M-2 Carbine couldn't fire full automatic. You'll have to consider that the StG44 fires a 8.1 g FMJ Spitzer bullet at 686 m/s while the M-2 Carbine fires a 7 g FMJ round nosed bullet at 580 m/s.
The StG 44 far superior to M-2 but it had capability of selective fire - semi and full auto... which was different from M-1 Carbine. The M-1 was originally thought of as a replacement for the 45 1911A1.
Very understandable. Though I would personally prefer the Belgian Fabrique Nationale (FN) Browning "High Power" over the M1911A1.
The M-2 did feature selective fire, I was thinking of the M-1 Carbine, but the M-2 didn't arrive until 1945 and I'm pretty confident it didn't see action in the ETO.