Best Jet of the War?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 20, 2004

That I can not tell you. I know only what I have read about it.

cheddar cheese · Dec 20, 2004

the lancaster kicks ass said:
are those figures proven??

Probably, seen as it did fly.

Anonymous · Dec 20, 2004

cheddar cheese said:
the lancaster kicks ass said:

are those figures proven??

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Probably, seen as it did fly.

It is hard to tell with late war German figures. Often, because of the difficulties and dangers of actual test flights, data is "estimated" based upon what little actual test data there was. This is especially true of things like speed at altitude or range. So it has to be taken with a big grain of salt.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

I believe the Ju-287 can be proven and taken seriously. The V-3 version which had the best performance was actually test flown by the Russians in 1947. The Russians trying to get there Jet program up and running would have tested this aircraft and any other they got there hands on to fullest extent.

Anonymous · Dec 21, 2004

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
I believe the Ju-287 can be proven and taken seriously. The V-3 version which had the best performance was actually test flown by the Russians in 1947. The Russians trying to get there Jet program up and running would have tested this aircraft and any other they got there hands on to fullest extent.

Sure but we would not have access to this test data. What there is is almost certainly captured German data, and as I pointed out, often this was estimated later in the war.

Do you have any access to the Russian info? If not, I have a couple of buddies in Russia who I can ask and see if they have anything.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

No I do not. Could you do that, that would be great.

Anonymous · Dec 21, 2004

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
No I do not. Could you do that, that would be great.

Certainly, but there is no gaurantee that info is available to them either. But it might be. I'll send off an email now.

(edit: emails have been sent)

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

Yeah it might be hard to get info. The Russians were just a secretive especially after the war.

Anonymous · Dec 21, 2004

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
Yeah it might be hard to get info. The Russians were just a secretive especially after the war.

Yes that is true, but it is also amazing how much old stuff they have opened up for public viewing in their libraries since the fall of the Soviet Union.

For example:

Soviet Fighter Tactics

These pages are a fairly good translation (I've confrimed this as one of my Russian contacts, who is a flight simulator programmer and an experianced aerobatics pilot, has read the orginal) of some of the pages from this book, which was "classified" until about 1992.

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DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

I was always amazed at how backwards they seemed sometimes. I went to East Germany in 1987 and then to Moscow in 1992 and it was just amazing how they seemed to be so far behind every one else socially. I have always been fascinated in Russia and so forth.

Anonymous · Dec 21, 2004

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
I was always amazed at how backwards they seemed sometimes. I went to East Germany in 1987 and then to Moscow in 1992 and it was just amazing how they seemed to be so far behind every one else socially. I have always been fascinated in Russia and so forth.

What I always found interesting about Russian's that I've dealt with is how materialistic they are. I guess if you don't have something, you obsess on it!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

I am going to have to make another trip to Moscow and St. Petersburg when I get out of Iraq. For some reasom the people and the country just fascinate me. Especially when I was growing up in Germnay during the Cold War. The whole aspect of it amazed me. I always wanted to work in the US Embessy in Moscow when I was a kid. I thought it would be fascinating the whole cat and mouse stuff that went on.

Nonskimmer · Dec 21, 2004

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What I always found interesting about Russian's that I've dealt with is how materialistic they are. I guess if you don't have something, you obsess on it!

Considering that they lived under communism for over seventy years, it's really not so surprising.

cheddar cheese · Dec 21, 2004

I love the Rusians too DerAdler, they have a fascinating culture and country.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

I agree with you. When I was in Highschool I was on the rifle marksmanship team and my coach was an olympic shooter, she learned to speak Russian so that she could comunicate with her Soviet counterparts and she tried to teach me but I gave up after only 6 weeks it was just too hard for me. Now I wish I had not quit and I hope to still learn it someday.

cheddar cheese · Dec 21, 2004

Russian is the #1 language id like to learn. Followed by Italian.

Its a shame that my school only has the option of French and Spanish (Im doing French). We dont even have German which is a language id like to learn.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

I have always been fascinated with languages I try to atleast learn a little bit of every language I can. Russian would be great to finish though.

Nonskimmer · Dec 21, 2004

I'd be happy right now to just learn French. Maybe I'll get Maestro to give me lessons.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Dec 21, 2004

I dont like the French language. To me it is just a bit prissy.

Nonskimmer · Dec 21, 2004

I find some of the people that way. From France that is, not Québéc.

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