Color scheme for French Dewoitine D.520 GC.1/3 in May/June 1940

François DH · May 28, 2018

Hello everyone,

I am finishing a French Dewoitine D.520 in 1940, Tamiya 1/48.
I am also waiting for GC1/3 Berna decals in May / June 1940 that I just bought.
Is the Berna decals paint plan OK?
I think I will do the plane of the Adjudant André Carrier.

I use Modelmaster Enamel colors.
I miss the reference French khaki MM 2106. Could you tell me what reference approaching I could find in the model range master Enamel?

I have already painted with airbrush the bottom in "French light blue gray" MM 2109 and the top in "French dark blue gray" MM 2105.
I still have to paint the "Earth Brown" MM 2108.

For French green khaki, which is a green color tending towards brown, I also find a similar color in HUMBROL "Forest green" H 150.
Does this seem OK to you?

I intend to use paper masks to have slightly fuzzy edges.
Is it better to paint brown first then khaki?

Could you also provide me a painting plan in 3 views, with the left and right side?
I know it's a not-so-obvious topic ...

I hope my writing of this post is readable ... I do not practice English very well.

Thanks in advance.

Yours,

François

Wurger · May 28, 2018

The Khaki colour should be FS 34088 - Humbrol 155 Olive Drab. The closest one for the MM range is FS 34087 - Model Master Olive Drab FS 34087 no.1711. IMHO you may use that MM enamel that should be fine.

But if you ask for the French Green - Vert Fonce... it should be FS 34079 - Humbrol 116. The Model Master - Dark Green FS 34079 no.1710.

Is it better to paint brown first then khaki?

In the case it doesn't matter becuase you have alredy applied the Gris Blue Fonce. Generally apply the one that is lighter firstly.

Could you also provide me a painting plan in 3 views, with the left and right side?

For which one?

François DH · May 28, 2018

Thank you, Sir.

Wurger said:
The Khaki colour should be FS 34088 - Humbrol 155 Olive Drab. The closest one for the MM range is FS 34087 - Model Master Olive Drab FS 34087 no.1711. IMHO you may use that MM enamel that should be fine.

But if you ask for the French Green - Vert Fonce... it should be FS 34079 - Humbrol 116. The Model Master - Dark Green FS 34079 no.1710.

I think it's the khaki color that was used and not the French green.
I do not have the olive drab MM1711.
It is extremely difficult to find the Model Master Enamel colors in Belgium!
But I have the Humbrol 155 in stock. I will try with this color in test.
... it seems to me to be more brown.
I also have the color "Dark Green (B-52)" FS 34096 - MM 2027 ...

For which one?

I think I will do the plane of the Adjudant André Carrier.
This is the 3rd from the top on the documentation Berna decals

Yours

François

Wurger · May 28, 2018

Oh my favourite no.10.. great ! I'll check if I can find something more..

François DH · May 28, 2018

Thanks

fubar57 · May 28, 2018

With Wojtek. When I entered MM 2106 into Google it came up with the image on the left and when I entered the FS number it came up with the image on the right...

Wurger · May 28, 2018

The profile says that these colour were Vert fonce/ Brun fonce/ Gris-bleu fonce/ Gris-bleu clair

and four more .. for the starboard

and here for the port side ...

Wurger · May 28, 2018

Unfortunately I couldn't find any decent painting plan in 3 views. Generally not too much can be found on the plane. However the diagram seen below may come in handy. Also check the link below. It should be useful too.

1/32 Azur Dewoitine D.520C. 1 No.73, G.C. I/3, 2nd Escadrille, Cannes, France, 1940 | Historical Wings

François DH · May 28, 2018

Wurger said:
The profile says that these colour were Vert fonce/ Brun fonce/ Gris-bleu fonce/ Gris-bleu clair

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and four more .. for the starboard

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and here for the port side ...

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Really a big thank you for the research.
It's not a very easy subject, I realize it!

See you,

François

Here is a photograph of Sergeant André CARRIER
wearing an embroidered scarf around the neck with the badge of the 2nd squadron GC I / 3 SPA 69 - "Cat's head in a circle with a blue background"
Bernard Philippe Collection
Les DEWOITINE D.520 du GC I/3 dans la campagne de France

I want to pay tribute to this pilot KIA May 14, 1940. Maybe a nice day like today in Belgium ....

Wurger · May 28, 2018

My pleasure. I hope the 3-view diagram posted above can be helpful for you.

rudolph1951 · May 28, 2018

More pictures:

François DH · May 29, 2018

rudolph1951 said:
More pictures:
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thank you very much!
, Rudolph

François DH · May 29, 2018

Wurger said:
My pleasure. I hope the 3-view diagram posted above can be helpful for you.

Thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for!
I think I can start painting on this basis of information.
Have a nice day in Poland!

François

Wurger · May 29, 2018

THX . Same to you.

François DH · Jun 12, 2018

Hello,

I had a very big problem with the decals Berna Decals: very thick, very bad print frame, very visible.
They do not react to the traditional Microsoft / Microset.

I think I'm going to paint the roundels. Could you advise me for French colors?

For blue, I found Humbrol H89 or a test I did: Testor Model Master MM 2715- Blue + White.
For the red, I hesitate: Humbrol H60, Scarlet red.

Could you advise me, in acrylic or enamel colors?

In advance, I thank you for it.

Yours,

François

Wurger · Jun 12, 2018

Hi François,

The French roundels may be of the colours....

Rouge drapeau ( cocardes ) - FS 31302 or 31105 or 31136 : Humbrol 174, Humbrol 60, Gunze H29, Tamiya X07, Life Color LC06.

Bleu drapeau ( cocardes ) - FS 35190 or 35200 : Humbrol 89, Humbrol 48, Gunze H35, Tamiya X14, Vallejo Model Color 70.901, Mr.Paint MRP-239 Blue FS 35190. or like you suggested the Hu 89 + some of white.

Blanc ( cocardes ) - FS 37875 or FS 37886: Humbrol 34, Gunze H11, Model Master 1768, Vallejo Model Color 70.820.

François DH · Jun 13, 2018

Wurger said:
Hi François,

The French roundels may be of the colours....

Rouge drapeau ( cocardes ) - FS 31302 or 31105 or 31136 : Humbrol 174, Humbrol 60, Gunze H29, Tamiya X07, Life Color LC06.

Bleu drapeau ( cocardes ) - FS 35190 or 35200 : Humbrol 89, Humbrol 48, Gunze H35, Tamiya X14, Vallejo Model Color 70.901, Mr.Paint MRP-239 Blue FS 35190. or like you suggested the Hu 89 + some of white.

Blanc ( cocardes ) - FS 37875 or FS 37886: Humbrol 34, Gunze H11, Model Master 1768, Vallejo Model Color 70.820.

Hello,
Again, a big thank you for your answers very complete ... and the speed of it!
I will test with these references.

See you,
Dziękuję bardzo!

François

Wurger · Jun 13, 2018

My pleasure, François.

regarding these colours for the French roundels.. I found them of two tones I mean the lighter and darker. The lighter red colour can be seen in the post #11 for instance while the darker one in post #7.. Generally it a matter of scanning I would say. But the small difference can be noticed in many B&W pictures. Looking at them I have gotten the impression that the red colour was of the darker tone mostly. The colour images below isn't of the best quality but the darker tone of the red can be seen. So the Humbrol 174 and 60 seem to be a good choice. Contrary to that the blue colour looks like being quite light and pale.

François DH · Jun 14, 2018

Wurger said:
My pleasure, François.

regarding these colours for the French roundels.. I found them of two tones I mean the lighter and darker. The lighter red colour can be seen in the post #11 for instance while the darker one in post #7.. Generally it a matter of scanning I would say. But the small difference can be noticed in many B&W pictures. Looking at them I have gotten the impression that the red colour was of the darker tone mostly. The colour images below isn't of the best quality but the darker tone of the red can be seen. So the Humbrol 174 and 60 seem to be a good choice. Contrary to that the blue colour lookslike being quite light and pale.

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Thank you, I will try the colors with your remarks.

see you

François

Color scheme for French Dewoitine D.520 GC.1/3 in May/June 1940

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