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If Bomber Command hadn't been such a hog about bombing Germany with most available planes the Far east, mid east and especial Coastal command may have had more squadrons of more effective aircraft earlier and done more for the war effort than the bombing campaign of 1940-41.
Against a first string opposition like the German types, the Defiant is little more than a target. Even second string opposition like the Italian monoplanes handily outclass it
That's because the Hudson was designed as a naval strike aircraft and was kitted out for maritime ops, the Battle wasn't. Similarities in bomb load has nothing to do with it. Why are you comparing the Hudson and Battle? They were totally different aircraft operated by different commands using different tactics. The Battle was not at any stage in its career used for maritime patrol nor anti-shipping strike. Its bomber career ended in 1940 and continued in service for second line duties only from then on, finally being officially declared obsolete in these roles in 1944.
As for Blenheims, they were available in numbers in 1941 and were still operating in front line squadrons. In the Far East the following bomber squadrons operated Blenheim IVs; 11, 34, 39, 45, 60, 84, 113 and 211. Blenheim V units in the Far East were 34, 42 and 113. This list covers the duration of the war, bearing in mind that the Blenheim V did not enter service (firstly in North Africa) until November 1942. Yes, they were committed in large numbers (that's what I meant when I say 'available') at that time, remember the Blenheim was in service at home in Fighter, Bomber and Coastal Commands and in North Africa and the Middle and Far East as fighters, bombers and army co-operation aircraft. Blenheims served on every front in every theatre the RAF was engaged in throughout the war, despite having been superceded in key roles by more suitable aircraft.
The Battle was a level bomber, as dive bombing wasn't RAF doctrine it was expected to fulfil the role of a level bomber with the capability for dive bombing. The spec to which it was built was P.27/32; this spec was produced as a replacement for the Hart and Hind bombers and also as insurance against the Geneva Convention banning heavy bombers. Even if it was capable of dive bombing or not, it doesn't change the situation in the Far East. The same as what happened over France to the Battle would have happened over Singapore too.
The Hudson's ancestry may be traced back to the Lockheed's Model 10 Electra, a ten-passenger civil airliner which first flew on 23 February, 1934. Designed by Hall Hibbard, Richard von Hake, Lloyd Stearman, and Clarence "Kelly" Johnson, this was Lockheed's first twin engine aircraft. It was Johnson's idea to adopt the twin tail configuration, which would be a Lockheed trademark for many years. Lockheed built 148 production Electras (plus the prototype), the most famous of which was flown almost around the world by Amelia Earhart. An interesting development of the Model 10 was the XC-35, which flew with a pressurized cabin in 1937.
The Model 10 was the immediate parent of the somewhat smaller Model 12 Electra Junior, a six-passenger executive transport. Lockheed built 114 examples of the Model 12 and 16 of a bomber version for the Netherlands East Indies. The latter aircraft later saw combat against the Japanese in late 1941 and early 1942. The Model 12 also served as military cargo aircraft and two, one purchased by France and one by Britain, served as clandestine photo-reconnaissance aircraft over Germany, Italy, and North Africa before the war.
Lockheed followed these with the larger Model 14 Super Electra, a 12-passenger civil airliner. First flown on 29 July, 1937, this aircraft had engines more powerful than those of her predecessors and featured Fowler flaps and a wing designed for higher speeds. Competing against the legendary Douglas DC-3, a larger and more economical aircraft, the relatively advanced Model 14 was not a big success, and only 112 were sold. One of these aircraft, piloted by Howard Hughes, flew around the world in less than 4 days, averaging 206.1 mph. It was a Model 14 that flew Neville Chamberlain to Munich to meet with Adolf Hitler in September, 1938.
In February 1938, Lockheed's design team learned of an impending visit of the British Purchasing Commission and, after five days and nights of rushed design work, proposed the B-14L, a reconnaissance bomber based on the Model 14. The British requested changes which were incorporated within 24 hours. Because the British were already impressed with the Model 14, and because the proposed Lockheed aircraft was cheaper than its competitors and could be delivered in quantity more quickly, on 23 June 1938 the British Purchasing Commission placed an order for Lockheed's proposed patrol bomber. This order specified 200 aircraft to be delivered by 31 December 1939, plus up to 50 additional aircraft if these could also be delivered by that date. All 250 were delivered well before that date (plus one replacement for an aircraft which was lost before delivery), at a price of about $100,000 each. The outbreak of war interrupted delivery because of a 1935 law which put an embargo on arms sales to belligerents. The Neutrality Act, signed by Roosevelt on 4 November, 1939, allowed the British and French to buy weapons on a "cash and carry" basis.
Lockheed Hudson Patrol Bomber - Aircraft - Fighting the U-boats - uboat.net
You need a lot of aircraft to stand any chance of sinking ships. One of the Luftwaffe's most successful attacks during the Kanalkamf was on convoy CW9 on 8/8/40. This was caried out with the Ju 87 which most would concede to be be one of the best and accurate dive bombers of the era,flown by well trained and experienced crews.
After piecemeal attacks in the morning it took two attacks by 57 and then 82 Stukas,heavily escorted by Bf 109s and Bf 110s to do the damage. In the end 7 of the eighteen freighters were sunk and only 4 were left undamaged. They limped into Weymouth,recent home of the Olympic sailing regatta.
That's 139 dive bombers ( I don't know how many actually pressed home an attack) and about 100 escort fighters (50 on each wave) to sink 7 freighters slowly butting there way up the English Channel,virtually within sight of the Luftwaffe bases.
Steve
The Hudson was a hurriedly converted civil aircraft design:
The Battle wasn't used where it should have been where air and ground defenses were less dense than in France, and was used when it was obviously faced with a task that no other contemporary strike aircraft could have done either; its failure was not a failure of the aircraft but of tactics and doctrine. The Battle was used for coastal patrol prior to being withdrawn entirely.
The "density" of the air defense in France may be somewhat over blown. It was now where near what it would be one to two years later on most fronts the Germans fought in.
As for being used for coastal patrol??? Sure it was.
In 1939 Coastal command had 10 Squadrons of Ansons, 2 squadrons of Vildebeests, 2 of Hudsons, 3 of Sunderlands and 3 of Supermarine Biplane flying boats plus 3 squadrons equipped with mixtures of aircraft for training and AA co-operation. 19 service squadrons total and 4 for training.
By Nov 1940 there were 28 service squadrons and and 8 training squadrons. One squadron of Battles is stationed in Iceland. Ansons are on the way out.
Three squadrons of Battles were used on coastal patrol duties, Nos. 88 and 226 Squadrons from Belfast and No. 98 Squadron from Iceland. These squadrons retained their Battles for most of 1941 – at this period Coastal Command often had to make do with whatever aircraft could be spared.
Fairey Battle
More speed is not necessarily a good thing. There are accounts where aircraft like the Swordfish flew too slowly to be effectively engaged. Now, this obviously wasn't the case at Endau with the Vildebeest but I rather doubt that the Battle would have fared any better.
MAX speed for the Fairey Battle was 257mph at 15,000ft. 240mph at 10,000ft and 210mph at sea level.
The Max Speed for the Vildebeest may have been at around 5000-6500ft.
The Battle may not have been able to sustain those speeds ( for more than 5 minutes?) while the Vildebeest may have. Older engine/propeller combinations were rated at a constant power and not 5 minute or 30 minute ratings.
All depends what it's going up against and the tactical situation at the time. RCAFSon, you're assuming a rear attack by the Japanese fighters which, I'll accept, a Battle would probably be more survivable because the tail-chase would be harder for the Japanese fighters. That said, a daylight raid like the one on Endau where 2 formations were thrown into the assault and the Japanese were able to attack on the route into the target, I don't see the Battle as being any more survivable. Like I said, all depends on the situation at the time.