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Elvis
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Thanks. Look forward to seeing those pics.
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Elvis
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...and I think the deciding factor is "115 Wing Spar / Centre Section attachment joint"
Thanks for solving the mystery, guys.
Thanks for solving the mystery, guys.
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Thought I'd add my two cents here (adjusted for inflation) but the articles of armistice stated that no Fokker D.VIIs were to remain in German possession.
Of all the aircraft that Germany possessed at the close of hostilities, it was the D.VII that was the focus of the Allies...there is a reason for that.
Of all the aircraft that Germany possessed at the close of hostilities, it was the D.VII that was the focus of the Allies...there is a reason for that.
You can see the centre-section in the top image, currently covered in cardboard to protect it. The project's been put on the back-burner for hte moment, while they concentrate on other projects with tighter timeframes. There's not much else to see with it at the moment, I'll try to get some more photos as they progress, but it'll be a slow process I think.
Will be good to see those projects finished, Aaron.
The strengths of the Bristol Fighter was in the fact that it was, in its pilots' eyes, a joy to fly and that it could actually hold its own with single seat scouts owing to a good power to weight ratio. Singe seaters were known as scouts - a 'fighter', from which the Bristol F.2 was built was a two seat machine that was primarily used for reconnaissance, but could look after itself in combat. This is why the Bristol F.2 is named as such. Obviously, a skilled team of pilot and observer watching the tail more often than not came out of any engagement on top and there are plenty of Bristol aces that confirm this. There are almost as many rear gunner Bristol aces as there are pilot aces in the type.
The highest scoring Bristol Fighter pilot ace was Lt Andrew McKeever, with 30 kills to his credit, the highest scoring Bristol gunner, was Lt Charles Gass, with 39 kills to his credit.
Interestingly, the individual who was tasked with sending the Bristol into combat first was William Leefe Robinson VC commanding 48 Sqn, who was the first to shoot down a German airship (the Schutte Lanz Class SL 11 - not a Zeppelin) over Britain, on 3 September 1916 (with 39 Home Defence Sqn). Sadly, he was a rather aloof character who had no concept of the type of combat that the Bristol should engage in, which resulted in high losses and for the aeroplane an ill-deserved reputation.
On the subject of the lower wing, you can see in this front view of the IWM's Bristol at Duxford, taken in July, that the lower wing is in three sections.
0707 Duxford Bristol Fighter
If I were to make a comparison with a more modern two-seater, I'd say the Hawker Demon or the Boulton Paul Defiant, although the latter had a very different modus operandi. The Demon had a 'turret' of sorts, the FN.1 built by Nash and Thomson, but it wasn't entirely enclosed, although azimuth and elevation of the unit was powered by hydraulics. This surviving Demon isn't fitted with the turret.
0107 Shuttleworth Military Pageant Demon
The Defiant; note the gun turret, a BP A.1 electro-hydraulic unit.
1207 RAFM Cosford Defiant
The strengths of the Bristol Fighter was in the fact that it was, in its pilots' eyes, a joy to fly and that it could actually hold its own with single seat scouts owing to a good power to weight ratio. Singe seaters were known as scouts - a 'fighter', from which the Bristol F.2 was built was a two seat machine that was primarily used for reconnaissance, but could look after itself in combat. This is why the Bristol F.2 is named as such. Obviously, a skilled team of pilot and observer watching the tail more often than not came out of any engagement on top and there are plenty of Bristol aces that confirm this. There are almost as many rear gunner Bristol aces as there are pilot aces in the type.
The highest scoring Bristol Fighter pilot ace was Lt Andrew McKeever, with 30 kills to his credit, the highest scoring Bristol gunner, was Lt Charles Gass, with 39 kills to his credit.
Interestingly, the individual who was tasked with sending the Bristol into combat first was William Leefe Robinson VC commanding 48 Sqn, who was the first to shoot down a German airship (the Schutte Lanz Class SL 11 - not a Zeppelin) over Britain, on 3 September 1916 (with 39 Home Defence Sqn). Sadly, he was a rather aloof character who had no concept of the type of combat that the Bristol should engage in, which resulted in high losses and for the aeroplane an ill-deserved reputation.
On the subject of the lower wing, you can see in this front view of the IWM's Bristol at Duxford, taken in July, that the lower wing is in three sections.
If I were to make a comparison with a more modern two-seater, I'd say the Hawker Demon or the Boulton Paul Defiant, although the latter had a very different modus operandi. The Demon had a 'turret' of sorts, the FN.1 built by Nash and Thomson, but it wasn't entirely enclosed, although azimuth and elevation of the unit was powered by hydraulics. This surviving Demon isn't fitted with the turret.
The Defiant; note the gun turret, a BP A.1 electro-hydraulic unit.
Yeah, the C of G was too far forward without the gunner. Not really a problem when it was operated though - why would you take off without the gunner in there?
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What I'm noticing from that shot is that the low placement of the top wing tends to "frame" the forward view.
I don't know about you, but it forces me to look forward, straight through the windscreen.
Elvis
I don't know about you, but it forces me to look forward, straight through the windscreen.
Elvis