swampyankee
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- Jun 25, 2013
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Much as I admire the Mosquito to pretend that it had a loss rate of 0.007% or 0.07% as a fighter bomber is ludicrous. It was a long range heavy fighter and/or a bomber and/or a PR aircraft you cant pick and choose which you want to suit or case then present the statistic you like.
As a side note I think the ki100 is one of the realy under appreciated planes pf the war.
I agree, but was making a different point. A loss rate of 0.007% is 7/100,000 missions. The bomber credited with the most missions was Mosquito F-Freddie which completed 213 missions. Some of the raids I quoted above had loss rates of 25% and 33%.Pilot's shouldn't have to deal with badly behaved aircraft; they already have enemy combatants trying to kill them.
Or one of the most overrated, depending how you see it. Having a much better power-to-weight ratio than its predecessor, the Ki-61, it outclassed the latter in every aspect of dogfight other than speed and dive I suppose, because the radial engine was much draggier.
They say it could fight a Mustang, but I think only if the Pony pilot plays by the Ki-100 strength.
But which pilot at this stage of war would engage in a low-speed dogfight with supremely agile yet slow Japanese fighters?
At this stage of war anything reliable and easy to maintain and fly would be hailed as outstanding by Japanese personell.
I think the Ki-100 was able to outfight the Hellcat, against faster US fighters I really have my doubts.
Was it really the best Japanese fighter?
It's funny you chose the F6F, Spicemart, since the Hellcat had the best air-to-air kill ratio of ANY fighter series used by the U.S.A. in the entire war by a rather wide margin and made more aces than any other mount. The Ki-100 was maneuverable, but the F6F was faster, climbed better, was WAY better armored, and was our best fighter at turning (not so much rolling). Many say the FM-2 had the best kill ratio, but the FM-2 properly belongs with the F4F family of aircraft. Taken as a series, the F4F wasn't even close to the F6F, and it also never fought in the major front-line battles. It gained a great reputation in mop-up operations from Jeep carriers in places the main fleet had bypassed. These small bases normally didn't have the cream of the crop of Japanese opposition to start with and, once bypassed, weren't a major threat to anybody who was reasonably alert.
The F6F-5 was some 30 mph faster and the F6F-3 was maybe 20 - 25 mph faster than the Ki-100.
The Ki-100 had a slight armament advantage with 2 x 20 mm + 2 x 50-cal, but not a large advantage. A hit on the F6F would result in some major damage, but so would a full volley of 6 * 50-cal versus the Ki-100. The thing to remember is that the 20 mm cannon and the two MG did NOT have the same ballistics. If you were hitting with the 50s, you were missign with the 20s and vice verse. It would have been MUCH better to have four 20s.
All this has been discussed at length in here and I'm not saying anything you didn't already know. Cheers.
Spitfire easiest by far !Hey folks, new guy here. Great site!
What would you kids say was the easiest warbird to fly? Specifically wondering about U.S., non-trainer, fighter/interceptor type aircraft. For example, how would you rank the following aircraft in terms of "user-friendliness?"
North American P-51D Mustang
Republic P-47D Thunderbolt
Grumman F6F-3 Hellcat
Curtis P-40E Warhawk (or Kittyhawk if you prefer)
Bell P-39D Airacobra
Chance-Vought F4U-4 Corsair
Lockheed P-38J Lightning
As I understand it, the Mustang is a sports car with a relatively high stall speed (100mph?) and, as such, requires some skill and respect to fly. And the Corsair (my favorite warbird) flies like a dream, I hear, but requires some serious skill for take-offs and landings... and the nerves to calmly ignore the oil slowly coating the windscreen
Being a "tricycle" configuration, the P-38 probably has the best site lines for take-offs and landings, but then you have the whole twin-engine thing to worry about (though certainly a welcomed worry for many fighter pilots).
But for the average, relatively new pilot... coming from T-6 Texan training, let's say, how would you rank the above aircraft in terms of "user-friendliness" or "ease of operation" overall?
And for comparison's sake, I don't object to throwing in a Spitfire, Zero, and/or Bf-109 or FW-190. Thanks!
Fred B.
My guess would be an Me-262, or possibly a Gloster Meteor.Hey folks, new guy here. Great site!
What would you kids say was the easiest warbird to fly? Specifically wondering about U.S., non-trainer, fighter/interceptor type aircraft. For example, how would you rank the following aircraft in terms of "user-friendliness?"
North American P-51D Mustang
Republic P-47D Thunderbolt
Grumman F6F-3 Hellcat
Curtis P-40E Warhawk (or Kittyhawk if you prefer)
Bell P-39D Airacobra
Chance-Vought F4U-4 Corsair
Lockheed P-38J Lightning
As I understand it, the Mustang is a sports car with a relatively high stall speed (100mph?) and, as such, requires some skill and respect to fly. And the Corsair (my favorite warbird) flies like a dream, I hear, but requires some serious skill for take-offs and landings... and the nerves to calmly ignore the oil slowly coating the windscreen
Being a "tricycle" configuration, the P-38 probably has the best site lines for take-offs and landings, but then you have the whole twin-engine thing to worry about (though certainly a welcomed worry for many fighter pilots).
But for the average, relatively new pilot... coming from T-6 Texan training, let's say, how would you rank the above aircraft in terms of "user-friendliness" or "ease of operation" overall?
And for comparison's sake, I don't object to throwing in a Spitfire, Zero, and/or Bf-109 or FW-190. Thanks!
Fred B.
My guess would be an Me-262, or possibly a Gloster Meteor.
When the jets started to replace the prop aircraft, after the war, a lot of pilots exclaimed how easy the jets were to fly, due to their simplicity.
Stick, rudder and the Go-Lever. No mixture controls or prop settings to worry about, just shove the throttle forward (or back) if you wanna go faster.
Only two jets I know that actually served during the war were the Schwable and the Meteor.
Elvis
I had worked with Corky Meyers on a couple of projects. During one of our conversations I asked him that very question since he was a chief test pilot for Grumman aircraft corporation.Hey folks, new guy here. Great site!
What would you kids say was the easiest warbird to fly? Specifically wondering about U.S., non-trainer, fighter/interceptor type aircraft. For example, how would you rank the following aircraft in terms of "user-friendliness?"
North American P-51D Mustang
Republic P-47D Thunderbolt
Grumman F6F-3 Hellcat
Curtis P-40E Warhawk (or Kittyhawk if you prefer)
Bell P-39D Airacobra
Chance-Vought F4U-4 Corsair
Lockheed P-38J Lightning
As I understand it, the Mustang is a sports car with a relatively high stall speed (100mph?) and, as such, requires some skill and respect to fly. And the Corsair (my favorite warbird) flies like a dream, I hear, but requires some serious skill for take-offs and landings... and the nerves to calmly ignore the oil slowly coating the windscreen
Being a "tricycle" configuration, the P-38 probably has the best site lines for take-offs and landings, but then you have the whole twin-engine thing to worry about (though certainly a welcomed worry for many fighter pilots).
But for the average, relatively new pilot... coming from T-6 Texan training, let's say, how would you rank the above aircraft in terms of "user-friendliness" or "ease of operation" overall?
And for comparison's sake, I don't object to throwing in a Spitfire, Zero, and/or Bf-109 or FW-190. Thanks!
Fred B.
Bong died due to his inexperience with the aircraft, not because "Jets are bad".American ace Richard Bong was killed flying the P-80, total time in aircraft, 4hrs 15min
They might be easy to fly, by a really experienced pilot, but managing the engines was pretty sporty, from what I've read.
Don't think I said that "Jets are bad". Let me check.........nope! He died because of the fuel system transfer I believe as did a test pilot