Help on identifying spinner

[Afitzgerald]

Hi to everyone, this is my first post.
I don't know if anyone can help. I thought this would be the best place to come to. I have found a nose cone from a propeller plane with spiral markings on it from a antiques fair. I don't know how old it is and it was found with modern plane parts, but the rivets and paint look old. The only markings are a "d" on the inside. The size is 44cms wide and 46cms long. Any information would be appreciated, thank you.

 

[Wurger]

The painting suggests the German one. It looks like a Ju-87D one.

 

[Afitzgerald]

Thanks, I thought German too. It was found with cessna parts according to the seller, but looking at the Cessna parts on google the shape and construction looks very different.

 

[Wurger]

All depends on the dimensions of the spinnner. The pictures can show usd the shape only. Judging by the shape it looks like the Ju-87 spinner. But dimensions can say more.

 

[nuuumannn]

The size is 44cms wide and 46cms long.

It looks bigger than 18 inches long (46cm).

Here's a 'G model Stuka for comparison. Don't think there's a ring of fasteners holding the inner hub support in place.

Stuka Nose

 

[MIflyer]

Note how the Ju-87 spinner slopes down to the base, a curving ogive shape the whole way.

The flea market one slopes down and then straightens out. Looks rather more like the one on the FW-190D.
And I think everyone knows the source of the attached picture.

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[CATCH 22]

This is a real FW-190 spinner:

Both airplanes (the Stuka and the Wurger) have spinners with a whole in the middle. The flea-market one doesn't. On the other hand it has square cut outs between the half-circular ones for the blades - I think the small ones are guides for the correct positioning of the spinner. And it consists of 3 parts: cone (top), middle one with big cut outs and a ring with the small rectangular openings. None of the popular German spinners is built in this way.

 

[MIflyer]

I assume the square cut outs are for securing the spinner to the base plate since there does not seem to be any other method to do so. The lower cylindrical ring is recessed so I assume it fits down into the base plate and then is attached via the square cut outs.

 

[CATCH 22]

You might be right with your assumptions. In any case the a/cs mentioned above have a different type of spinner.
This is how the one on the Stuka is attached:

 

[Capt. Vick]

Ju 88?

 

[GrauGeist]

I almost want to say this might be from a Gnome-Rhone 14x engine, like on the Hs129, but I don't have any clear enough photos to confirm (or cancel) this suspicion

 

[Afitzgerald]

Thanks to everyone for so much help. It's a shame I can't compare sizes of the originals. The FW-190D one I think has a different rivet design but it's true it does have the slots. Do we still agree on the age of it being ww2? I should of said before, it was originally found at an airfield in France. Don't know if that helps.

 

[GrauGeist]

Ok, I didn't know it was found in France...that would rule out the Hs129, as it operated in the MTO and Eastern Front.

That being said, I would certainly think that it has Luftwaffe heritage and they did operate a broad range of types from French bases.

 

[Wurger]

Both airplanes (the Stuka and the Wurger) have spinners with a whole in the middle. The flea-market one doesn't.

The full size images shows someting that looks like it at the top..

Do we still agree on the age of it being ww2?

To be honest it is quite difficult to state. I might be a post war spinner painted like a WW2 one.

 

[Afitzgerald]

Just to clarify. Mine has no hole at the end. Also has a slight dent to the top too which doesn't help getting an idea of shape.

 

[Wurger]

 

[Afitzgerald]

It is a dent.

 

[Wurger]

I see. So now it sounds a little bit different. Well... Catch22 is right then. Nieither the Ju-87 nor the Fw 190.

 

[MIflyer]

Ju-88 spinner appears to be blunter than that one, although it does have a ring around the bottom like that one would have. . It looks more like that for an He-219. A Hs-129 is not impossible because the engines were built in France. They sent ones from the Med to Italy for overhaul and they could have sent them to France for engine overhaul.
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[Afitzgerald]

I think this is maybe the closest yet.