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I have some questions about the P-38, and I'm inviting comments.
I've always considered the Lightning a super cool craft, both because of the way it looks and performs and because it was one of the earliest products of Kelly Johnson's team at Lockheed which would become known as the Skunk Works. It was the first combat airplane to achieve 400 mph in level flight. And even though it came out before the P-40 and the P-39, both of those planes ceased production in 1944, but the Lightning was good enough to be produced throughout the entire war.
But only fairly recently have I been reading much about its mediocre reputation in the European theater of operations. Seems that a lot of American and British pilots and generals didn't think highly of it, and some German pilots considered it an "easy kill" even though others counted it a worthy and dangerous foe. I know it was popular and successful in the Pacific theater, but now I'm wondering if any of that success was because the Japanese flying forces had already been gravely weakened by 1943 through loss of good pilots, even before the Great Marianas Turkey Shoot. (Perhaps the Turkey Shoot was the result of the deterioration of Japanese air power, rather than the cause of it, as has often been suggested?)
Anyway, how good (or bad) was the P-38, really?
Not necessarily true - the P-38's issues were continually addressed and improved. Later model P-38Js and Ls were great performers and in some areas out performed both the P-51 and P-47. It was more expensive to operate and required more pilot training but remained the premier AAF fighter in the PTO until the the Mustang started to arrive in numbers later in the war.I think the biggest problem with the P38 is that by the time it was sorted out it didn't do anything the P51 and P47 were already doing, and they were established fighters.
I agree with the basic premise. Warts and all, it was the 'best all round fighter' deployed by AAF through late 1943. The issues encountered in ETO were largely absent in Pacific and MTO based on lower altitude mission profile for most escort escort. Kelly Johnson put his finger on the two most important operational deficiencies - namely the intercooler design through H and the continued issues through J-15 which limited horsepower delivery to 1000+HP until solved - and they were inter-related with engine detonation, oil cooling and turbo.. The second issue that was introduced and never fully solved was the compressibility/controllability issues of the wing and wing/fuselage design. The Dive flap introduced by J-25 along with boosted ailerons finally introduced the 'reality to the potential' in late 1944 but only enabled full control in the .6M dive. It could not keep up with P-51/47 or Fw 190/Bf 109 in a dive.Not necessarily true - the P-38's issues were continually addressed and improved. Later model P-38Js and Ls were great performers and in some areas out performed both the P-51 and P-47. It was more expensive to operate and required more pilot training but remained the premier AAF fighter in the PTO until the the Mustang started to arrive in numbers later in the war.
I`d just like to clarify, there was nothing at all wrong with the original intercooler design. Its just that if you use the leading edge of the wing as your intercooler, youI thought Snowygrouch was going to beat me to it. HIs book makes clear (I've read it cover to cover) that the original P-38 models had a really poor intercooler design that was finally improved on the P-38J. In addition, it really needed the equivalent of the Fw 190's Kommandogerät as there were too many controls to be adjusted to properly control the engines, props and turbochargers.
The P-47C and D had more combat radius than any P-39 model.1943 P-38 had plenty of faults (intercoolers, low mach number, cockpit heat, high maintenance, high cost etc) but it did have range. 1943 P-47 was probably a better, more survivable weapon with it's own faults (climb, turn) but it did not have range.
I did a lot of research on my first book on this specific topic and refined it for second book. I looked at ALL VIII FC MACRs as well as 8th AF VCB, USAF 85, and Olynyks data in order to mark transition from aircraft type (i.e 4th FG from Spitfire through 4/1/43, P-47 through Big Week and 2-27-44, P-51 thereafter).A word about 'European/British fuel'. It was the same fuel as used in every other allied aircraft. It was not drilled in Europe or England, it came across the Atlantic in tankers. It was used by the other three US turbocharged aircraft. Nothing wrong with the fuel.
P-38s in the ETO had a claim/loss ratio of 1:1. P-47s 4:1 and P-51s about the same. When groups traded in their Lightnings for Mustangs their kill/loss went up by four times instantly. But never mind, it was the fifth-best American fighter. It cost more than the others and did no better. Not a terrible flop, not too bad at all, just not really up to the myth.
the 364th wasn't operational until March 2nd, so only two P-38 FG, two P-51B (354/357) but 363rd got into ops on 2-24. In all nine -47 (incl. 9th AF) were in Big Week Full time.As far as range is concerned, that's true. But the P-38 had a six-week advantage in deployment over the P-51B, during which time few long-range missions were carried out by the Eighth., recovering from second Schweinfurt. The impression you get of the P-38 holding the line on its own for a long time is wrong, check it.
Somewhere I have a spreadsheet comparing the group performances during Big Week. I think it's a fair comparison during a time three groups had P-38s and had time to work on the training and bugs. I'll post it later after I make some sense out of it.