Identification of german aircraft parts

[decklanblue92]

Hi guys could anyone shed some light on what this is someone gave it to me as they know im a collector of weird and wonderful things I've never really had any world war memorabilia in my collection mind all I know is that it's german and from a plane that was shot down in folkestone I've been told here are a few photos I've taken

 

[Michael Hope]

No idea on the part, but I do like the pattern on the table.

 

[Nogo99]

Hi. At first I'm thinking Hawker undercarriage actuator (Typhoon/Tempest type)......But will have to dig deeper.

 

[decklanblue92]

Hi. At first I'm thinking Hawker undercarriage actuator (Typhoon/Tempest type)......But will have to dig deeper.

Okay mate thank you for the advise forgive me I have little to no knowledge on this stuff but I have found some numbers stamped on the thing I will post a picture

 

[Wurger]

OK. your pic is to large but very readable. Judging by the marking the number is Teilenummer R8-88.513-8501 what may indicate a Ju-88. Unfortunately the third digit "8" of the number wasn't casted fully and it looks like "0" what may mislead. But a close up inspection reveals it should be "8". Also I can't remind myself a german plane of code 80. IMHO the R8-88.513-8501 VLW 96175 3115.4 part looks like a piece of the the hydraulic flap/dive brake actuator. The VLW logo can be of the Vereinigte Leichtmetall-Werke G.m.b.H. in Hannover.

Also a better image of the data plate could help. It is possible there can be a device (geräte) FL number.

 

[decklanblue92]

OK. your pic is to large but very readable. Judging by the marking the number is Teilenummer R8-88.513-8501 what may indicate a Ju-88. Unfortunately the third digit "8" of the number wasn't casted fully and it looks like "0" what may mislead. But a close up inspection reveals it should be "8". Also I can't remind myself a german plane of code 80. IMHO the R8-88.513-8501 VLW 96175 3115.4 part looks like a piece of the the hydraulic flap/dive brake actuator. The VLW logo can be of the Vereinigte Leichtmetall-Werke G.m.b.H. in Hannover.

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Also a better image of the data plate could help. It is possible there can be a device (geräte) FL number.

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Wow thank you for the knowledge I will get a better photo of the plate it looks like it says something in german
there are no numbers that I can see on it though
would something like this sell for money I think someone would appreciate this piece of aircraft salvage more than I would and I could do with some extra money as I am currently trying to buy a new car

 

[Nogo99]

Totally agree with Wurger. You are holding an original, factory-stamped component from the right-hand wing or flap assembly of a Junkers Ju 88.
Here is the exact breakdown of the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) blueprint system (Sachnummer) for your part:

1. The Aircraft Type (8-88):
   The prefix 8 was the official RLM code for military airframe components, and the number 88 was exclusively assigned to the legendary Junkers Ju 88 twin-engine bomber/night fighter. Your part is undeniably from a Ju 88.
2. The Sub-Assembly Group (.513):
   In the German engineering system, the digits following the aircraft type defined the exact section of the plane. Numbers in the 500-block were strictly reserved for the wing structure or its moving control surfaces, such as the ailerons, flaps, or the internal hydraulic/mechanical actuator rods.
3. The Component Number (-8501):
   This is the unique factory code for the specific part. In the Junkers manufacturing tradition, an odd number at the very end (1) almost always indicated a component designed for the starboard side of the aircraft, whereas even numbers were for the left side.
4. The Leading "R" Prefix:
   This usually indicates a specific factory modification, a sub-contractor code, or a component linked to a Rüstsatz (field conversion/modification kit).

 

[decklanblue92]

Totally agree with Wurger. You are holding an original, factory-stamped component from the right-hand wing or flap assembly of a Junkers Ju 88.
Here is the exact breakdown of the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) blueprint system (Sachnummer) for your part:

1. The Aircraft Type (8-88):
   The prefix 8 was the official RLM code for military airframe components, and the number 88 was exclusively assigned to the legendary Junkers Ju 88 twin-engine bomber/night fighter. Your part is undeniably from a Ju 88.
2. The Sub-Assembly Group (.513):
   In the German engineering system, the digits following the aircraft type defined the exact section of the plane. Numbers in the 500-block were strictly reserved for the wing structure or its moving control surfaces, such as the ailerons, flaps, or the internal hydraulic/mechanical actuator rods.
3. The Component Number (-8501):
   This is the unique factory code for the specific part. In the Junkers manufacturing tradition, an odd number at the very end (1) almost always indicated a component designed for the starboard side of the aircraft, whereas even numbers were for the left side.
4. The Leading "R" Prefix:
   This usually indicates a specific factory modification, a sub-contractor code, or a component

Thank you very much for the information you have provided on this
i would love to find out more about were it was found and whatever the story could be behind this
i was told by my uncle who was the one I received the salvaged piece from that it was recovered from somewhere in folkstone Kent England how would I go.about finding more information if possible

 

[Nogo99]

Thank you very much for the information you have provided on this
i would love to find out more about were it was found and whatever the story could be behind this
i was told by my uncle who was the one I received the salvaged piece from that it was recovered from somewhere in folkstone Kent England how would I go.about finding more information if possible

Give me a few days and I'll look into it with possible crashes.

 

[decklanblue92]

Give me a few days and I'll look into it with possible crashes.

Thank you i will also be on the hunt

 

[Nogo99]

I'm digging deeper into a Ju 188 E crash near Folkestone in April 1944 (Operation Steinbock). I do think that a Ju 88 and a Ju 188 would share part numbers for most components...

 

[woodhaven]

Tragwerk - Flügel rechts Ju 88 A-1/A-9/C-1

 

[Nogo99]

Maybe this?
During the night of 18-19 April 1944, as part of Operation Steinbock, a Ju 188 (U5+KN) of 5./KG 2 was lost in the area. It was shot down by a Mosquito of No. 85 Sqn, piloted by W/C Miller. Three crew members were KIA, including the pilot Fw. Helmuth Richter and the observer Oblt. Albert Hein, along with one other. The remaining two crew members were taken POW. Their mission was to illuminate targets over London.
Several locations are suggested in different books and reports, but it likely came down in Kent near Folkestone, with Ivychurch, Dymchurch, and "Goldings Farm" being specifically mentioned.
Or this?
Unmanned Mistel (Ju 88) - 1 September 1944, late evening - Hothfield in Kent.

To narrow down the search, it's likely planes from these units—KG 76, KG 77, and KG 51 for the early phase (1940), and KG 2 and KG 6 for the late phase (1944)—we are looking for.
These dates are very likely September 27 and October 3-4, 1940, especially regarding the KG 77 losses.
I'm looking into probably around 8 losses in the area with Ju 88/188, so I will try to find the details regarding each.

 

[Engineman]

Totally agree with Wurger. You are holding an original, factory-stamped component from the right-hand wing or flap assembly of a Junkers Ju 88.
Here is the exact breakdown of the Reichsluftfahrtministerium (RLM) blueprint system (Sachnummer) for your part:

1. The Aircraft Type (8-88):
   The prefix 8 was the official RLM code for military airframe components, and the number 88 was exclusively assigned to the legendary Junkers Ju 88 twin-engine bomber/night fighter. Your part is undeniably from a Ju 88.
2. The Sub-Assembly Group (.513):
   In the German engineering system, the digits following the aircraft type defined the exact section of the plane. Numbers in the 500-block were strictly reserved for the wing structure or its moving control surfaces, such as the ailerons, flaps, or the internal hydraulic/mechanical actuator rods.
3. The Component Number (-8501):
   This is the unique factory code for the specific part. In the Junkers manufacturing tradition, an odd number at the very end (1) almost always indicated a component designed for the starboard side of the aircraft, whereas even numbers were for the left side.
4. The Leading "R" Prefix:
   This usually indicates a specific factory modification, a sub-contractor code, or a component linked to a Rüstsatz (field conversion/modification kit).

The leading R code before the number code on this aircraft part indicates that it is an RLM part number code. This R is followed by the RLM code 8 which shows that it is an Airframe component, "9" would indicate an Engine or engine system part. Often, the "R" prefix is not listed in the manufacturers parts books where the part association is obvious.
Here, the 3115.4 code is the Aluminium material spec.

Eng

 

[decklanblue92]

Maybe this?
During the night of 18-19 April 1944, as part of Operation Steinbock, a Ju 188 (U5+KN) of 5./KG 2 was lost in the area. It was shot down by a Mosquito of No. 85 Sqn, piloted by W/C Miller. Three crew members were KIA, including the pilot Fw. Helmuth Richter and the observer Oblt. Albert Hein, along with one other. The remaining two crew members were taken POW. Their mission was to illuminate targets over London.
Several locations are suggested in different books and reports, but it likely came down in Kent near Folkestone, with Ivychurch, Dymchurch, and "Goldings Farm" being specifically mentioned.
Or this?
Unmanned Mistel (Ju 88) - 1 September 1944, late evening - Hothfield in Kent.

To narrow down the search, it's likely planes from these units—KG 76, KG 77, and KG 51 for the early phase (1940), and KG 2 and KG 6 for the late phase (1944)—we are looking for.
These dates are very likely September 27 and October 3-4, 1940, especially regarding the KG 77 losses.
I'm looking into probably around 8 losses in the area with Ju 88/188, so I will try to find the details regarding each.

Wow thats amazing alot of possible information much appreciated thank you for taking time to.look into this i really appreciate it thank you