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Isn't this a What-if?
No, not what if, but what was. I'm asking the forum members if they're aware of what Japan had planned for fighters on its planned future carriers likely to enter service, AIUI in 1945-46. It's a question of history, not hypotheticals. Did IJNAS fighter development stop hard with their 1940 request for the A7M?Looks What if to me
Could the A7M have mixed it up with the Sea Fury or Bearcat? Had war not come, what were the long term ideas for IJNAS fighter to replace the A6M and A7M? Or did the IJN not plan this far out?
That's what's on my mind. The IJN maintained a pipeline of successive shipboard strike designs, culminating in the Aichi B7A and Yokosuka D4Y, with further advancement of these two in the works. But no fighter succession planning other than the A7M?It's interesting to note that the only "second generation" fighters ( J2M, and N1K-J) produced for the IJN that entered service were strictly land based.
The A7M went through a rather protracted development phase during which it lagged behind US progressive designs. The Japanese lagged behind US technology and had limited access to strategic materials that were necessary for producing components such as turbochargers, even though they had captured American examples from B-17s. I'm purely speculating but perhaps there was not the sense of urgency that should have prevailed regarding a replacement for the A6M because of its successes into mid 1942. The Japanese war plan counted on a negotiated peace with the US after over running outposts in the Pacific and a theoretical destruction of the Pacific Fleet. A protracted war that allowed the US to gear up production of advanced weapons was their downfall.That's what's on my mind. The IJN maintained a pipeline of successive shipboard strike designs, culminating in the Aichi B7A and Yokosuka D4Y, with further advancement of these two in the works. But no fighter succession planning other than the A7M?
A shipboard version of the Kawanishi Shiden-Kai, the N1K4-A, was built and tested. But before production could begin this version was abandoned with the complete destruction of Japan's carrier forces.In 1945 the FAA introduced the Hawker Sea Fury, the USN the Grumman F8F Bearcat. What did the Japanese have planned?
Nice. If a Kawanishi N1K carrier variant was tested, perhaps their J6K would have been in the cards. I'd love to know what the IJN had planned.A shipboard version of the Kawanishi Shiden-Kai, the N1K4-A, was built and tested. But before production could begin this version was abandoned with the complete destruction of Japan's carrier forces.
Sea Fury went operational in 1947. Seafire F. XV missed the war. Seafire FIII/LIII/FRIII was match for A6M5, perhaps not A6M8 though, but then it never entered service and we would have had the Seafire F. XV which would have outclassed it.Nice. If a Kawanishi N1K carrier variant was tested, perhaps their J6K would have been in the cards. I'd love to know what the IJN had planned.
If the war had continued, the A7M would have been opposed by the F4U-4, P-47N, P-51H, F7F, F8F and the P-80 , all of which rendered the A7M obsolete from the start.
Yes, but my query is what did the IJNAF plan for its carriers that would have entered service in the mid-1940s? I gave the example of the J6K Jinpu to show that Japan had highly advanced types planned for land based aircraft, so perhaps they had equally advanced types planned for the carriers that would have entered service in 1944-45 had war not slowed them down. Surely they didn't just stop with the A7M but were thinking something needs to succeed it.The J6K Jinpu was not carrier based; it was a land based naval fighter and reached mock-up stage only before the war's end; even then the mock-up was based on the J3K1, which only existed as a mock-up.
Yes, but my query is what did the IJNAF plan for its carriers that would have entered service in the mid-1940s?
they were only intended as interims until the A7M Reppu and derivatives was ready, which was what the IJN was hinging its carrier fighter future on; that and continuing development of the A6M.