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[RLM1062]

I have this part that is allegedly from an FW190 and am looking for some information if anyone can help. In addition to pictures of the part is a photo that may have been the FW190 the part was removed from.

All of the information about this part and photo I have is hearsay so please take all of this with a grain of salt. Supposedly the photo was taken at Laon-Anthies Advanced Landing Ground A-69 between 10/44 and 2/45. Before the airfield was captured by the US Army in September 44, it was during the time frame of 12/43-2/44 the base for Schlachtgeschwader 4 (SG4) that flew FW190s. Supposedly the plane was shot down there around the same 10/44 - 2/45 time frame. But I'm thinking it may have been damaged in battle while SG4 was stationed there, written off by the Germans and used for parts, only to later be abandoned.

I see on the disc the number 8-190. Could that refer to FW190A8? I looked up the tail number on the plane in the photo and based upon the number and reference on this site think it may have been built at Focke Wulf Cottbus. If this is incorrect please let me know.

What I would like to know if anyone can tell, did this part come from an FW190 and if so is there any way to tell if it came specifically from the FW190 in the picture? If it is, then based on the tail number of the plane in the picture can anyone share any information on this aircraft's history? Any information, assistance or suggestions, links to websites to look for more information, all would be much appreciated.

 

[Snautzer01]

Fw190A-8 wrknr 171717 found in Trier Germany april 1945.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D52%26t%3D91020%26hilit%3Dhondt%26start%3D1560&ved=2ahUKEwjjr_zllteNAxVSTqQEHWwcOqcQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XMC1_cPgeN0pe75ZC_jmF

 

[Snautzer01]

Not Trier-Euren.

2 Mar 45: Trier taken by U.S. 10th Armored Div.
Operational Units: elements of I./JG 2 (Nov 39 – Apr 40); III./JG 52
(May 40); III./JG 53 (May 40); II./ZG 1 (Jun 40); Stab, II./KG 2 (Jun-
Jul 40).
School Units: Arbeitsplatz for Schule/FAR 43, FFS A/B 43 then FFS A
43 (Crailsheim).

No fw190. So satellite field perhaps.

 

[CATCH 22]

I have this part that is allegedly from an FW190 and am looking for some information if anyone can help.

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IMHO your part could be the oil sump drain cap marked with the yellow arrow (or at least is somewhere in the same area).

Check the attached BMW-801 scheme for the full picture. AFAIK the number 8-190 is the group-number (seen on many parts from the same group e.g. airframe) and does not correspond to a particular model, variant, sub-variant etc. of the a/c.

 

[Engineman]

Hi,

The 8-190 code on the tag shows an airframe part (code 8 for airframe) for an Fw 190 type. The full code 8-190 935-0301 is the part number in the Fw 190 parts list. Unfortunately, I do not have that document.
The tag seems to be separated from the cap, so it is not clear that they are originally an item? The words say, OIL, engine sump inlet. The airframe part number ID (8-190) would indicate that this was an Fw 190 part, rather than a BMW Engine part (would be 9-801 etc).

Eng

 

[RLM1062]

Fw190A-8 wrknr 171717 found in Trier Germany april 1945.

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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.modelforum.cz/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D52%26t%3D91020%26hilit%3Dhondt%26start%3D1560&ved=2ahUKEwjjr_zllteNAxVSTqQEHWwcOqcQFnoECCMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1XMC1_cPgeN0pe75ZC_jmF

Thanks for the info!

 

[RLM1062]

IMHO your part could be the oil sump drain cap marked with the yellow arrow (or at least is somewhere in the same area).
View attachment 834474
Check the attached BMW-801 scheme for the full picture. AFAIK the number 8-190 is the block-number (seen on many parts from the same block/group) and does not correspond to a particular model, variant, sub-variant etc. of the a/c.

Thanks!

 

[RLM1062]

Hi,

The 8-190 code on the tag shows an airframe part (code 8 for airframe) for an Fw 190 type. The full code 8-190 935-0301 is the part number in the Fw 190 parts list. Unfortunately, I do not have that document.
The tag seems to be separated from the cap, so it is not clear that they are originally an item? The words say, OIL, engine sump inlet. The airframe part number ID (8) would indicate that this was an Fw 190 part, rather than a BMW Engine part.

Eng

Appreciate the assistance and the information!

 

[Engineman]

Appreciate the assistance and the information!

Thanks.
Someone with the Fw 190 parts lists should be able to pin it down.
The use of the RLM code for an airframe part designation on what seems like an engine part is common. Things like oil and coolant tanks or pipework are usually airframe parts because
they are bespoke to an airframe. This is not a black or white thing though, it does vary. However, generally, airframe part code numbered items (8-190 in this case) are designed and made by the airframe company and appear in the airframe parts list, whereas engine part coded items (would be 9-801 etc) are in the engine parts list. Also, many parts are non-specific, like fittings and unions etc, and they may be numbered in different ways.

Eng

 

[pb43]

I have this part that is allegedly from an FW190 and am looking for some information if anyone can help. In addition to pictures of the part is a photo that may have been the FW190 the part was removed from.

All of the information about this part and photo I have is hearsay so please take all of this with a grain of salt. Supposedly the photo was taken at Laon-Anthies Advanced Landing Ground A-69 between 10/44 and 2/45. Before the airfield was captured by the US Army in September 44, it was during the time frame of 12/43-2/44 the base for Schlachtgeschwader 4 (SG4) that flew FW190s. Supposedly the plane was shot down there around the same 10/44 - 2/45 time frame. But I'm thinking it may have been damaged in battle while SG4 was stationed there, written off by the Germans and used for parts, only to later be abandoned.

I see on the disc the number 8-190. Could that refer to FW190A8? I looked up the tail number on the plane in the photo and based upon the number and reference on this site think it may have been built at Focke Wulf Cottbus. If this is incorrect please let me know.

What I would like to know if anyone can tell, did this part come from an FW190 and if so is there any way to tell if it came specifically from the FW190 in the picture? If it is, then based on the tail number of the plane in the picture can anyone share any information on this aircraft's history? Any information, assistance or suggestions, links to websites to look for more information, all would be much appreciated.




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Literally:- Engine sump Lubricant filler cap. NOT drain plug

 

[Tony Kambic]

Here you go, both .301 and .302. from Fw190 A ETL KG 07 Triebwerkverorgung document.

 

[Engineman]

Here you go, both .301 and .302. from Fw190 A ETL KG 07 Triebwerkverorgung document.

Excellent post Tony!

Note, the specific tag marked 8-190 935-0301 is on the pages 16/17, item 3 kennschild 190.935.301 , the cap (kappe) is just part of the valve with the part number 9-2126 A.

Eng

 

[RLM1062]

Here you go, both .301 and .302. from Fw190 A ETL KG 07 Triebwerkverorgung document.

That is amazing! Thank you!

 

[Engineman]

Further to these two valves purposes. The Fw 190 A Handbuch describes the forward one as for pre very cold start charging with hot engine oil into the engine (oil pump etc). The other valve is for the same reason but leads the hot oil into the oil thermostat and the Pipes, tank/cooler system.
Details of the requirements for this proceedure are in the Fw 190 A Aircraft operating instructions, FLUGZEUGBETRIEBSANLEITUNGEN.

Eng

 

[RLM1062]

Further to these two valves purposes. The Fw 190 A Handbuch describes the forward one as for pre very cold start charging with hot engine oil into the engine (oil pump etc). The other valve is for the same reason but leads the hot oil into the oil thermostat and the Pipes, tank/cooler system.
Details of the requirements for this proceedure are in the Fw 190 A Aircraft operating instructions, FLUGZEUGBETRIEBSANLEITUNGEN.

Eng

Thanks for your replies and the information provided!