Venomstick121
Airman 1st Class
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- Dec 21, 2023
How effective would modern jets be in the world wars if we were to time travel just the jet fighter and the pilots, maintenance, fuel, parts, and munitions?
Modern Jets in WW2/WW1
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Before the grownups jump in, is there a cut-off? Like 3rd gen, 4th gen, or, what's up there now?
I often think about this...a great mental exercise.
Isn't it obvious that the modern fighters would completely outclass the old prop fighters? They could just use their superior speed to stay well out of range and lob missiles. The only way they would lose would be 1) Running out of missiles. Consider a WWII style 1000 bomber raid; how many countries today even have a stockpile of 1000+ AA missiles? 2) Making the mistake of getting into a turnfight with guns only. Even in a turnfight a 5th gen fighter with thrust vectoring and sick thrust/weight might be able to carry the day.
For some funny DCS experiments with Spit IX vs various jets, see
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7y-mg3xek
and
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLOQTISl_I
For some funny DCS experiments with Spit IX vs various jets, see
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL7y-mg3xek
and
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLOQTISl_I
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GreenKnight121
Senior Airman
- 628
- Mar 16, 2014
My preference would be for F-86F Sabres or F9F-8 Cougars. I wouldn't go with any FJ-3/4 Furies because their J65 engines were more finicky than the Sabre's J47 or the Cougar's J48.
Both were AIM-9 capable, and they used the same ammo as the US forces' .50 cal & 20mm aircraft guns, thus keeping them shooting long after M61 cannon would be out of ammo.
Both were also pretty maneuverable, and could carry WW2-era bombs.
Their engines also were designed for early jet fuel - which was similar to kerosene, thus they could serve4 with then-current fuels.
Plus the F9F-8 was carrier-capable, even if the arresting gear & catapults would be at their limits and might need upgrading.
Yes... even though you said munitions would be sent back as well, they really would likely be able to use up all of what got sent well before the end of the war.
The same goes for repair parts... everything they needed was within the capabilities of WW2 fabrication facilities, techniques, and skills.
Additional aircraft and engines could also be made, expanding their effect on events.
Both were AIM-9 capable, and they used the same ammo as the US forces' .50 cal & 20mm aircraft guns, thus keeping them shooting long after M61 cannon would be out of ammo.
Both were also pretty maneuverable, and could carry WW2-era bombs.
Their engines also were designed for early jet fuel - which was similar to kerosene, thus they could serve4 with then-current fuels.
Plus the F9F-8 was carrier-capable, even if the arresting gear & catapults would be at their limits and might need upgrading.
Yes... even though you said munitions would be sent back as well, they really would likely be able to use up all of what got sent well before the end of the war.
The same goes for repair parts... everything they needed was within the capabilities of WW2 fabrication facilities, techniques, and skills.
Additional aircraft and engines could also be made, expanding their effect on events.
