"Mystery" Wings off Point Loma, California

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beldridg

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May 3, 2022
We have been trying to find a S-3 Viking that crashed into the ocean off Point Loma, California.

We found two wings that are about 400 feet away from each other. When we found the first wing, we thought it might have been a wing from the Viking but we now believe it is not. We are trying to figure out the airplane type that the wings belong to. I have built photogrammetry models of both of them and we believe they are from the same airplane that might have been salvaged.

Below are screen captures of both models along with links to the blog posts with a lot more details on both of them.

We have theories, but I'm curious if anybody can tell us what type of airplane these came from?

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Here is the sonar image of the two wings:

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Below are links to a few of the blog posts with more photos and information:


Regards,

- brett
 
We have been trying to find a S-3 Viking that crashed into the ocean off Point Loma, California. We found two wings that are about 400 feet away from each other. When we found the first wing, we thought it might have been a wing from the Viking but we now believe it is not. We are trying to figure out the airplane type that the wings belong to. I have built photogrammetry models of both of them and we believe they are from the same airplane that might have been salvaged. Below are screen captures of both models along with links to the blog posts with a lot more details on both of them. We have theories, but I'm curious if anybody can tell us what type of airplane these came from? View attachment 863427 View attachment 863428 Here is the sonar image of the two wings: View attachment 863429 Below are links to a few of the blog posts with more photos and information: Regards, - brett
Neither one are S-3. Look more like Catalina / PBY
 
Two things that would help...

1. Do you have the ability to give any kind of dimensions? If the wingspan is known, or even the width between ribs, it would definitely help narrow down the search.

2. If the pictures on your site would link to a larger image so that we could zoom in better on individual sections. I'm having a hard time discerning details from the small pictures.

Have you gone through the Aviation Archeology site and tried to correlate accident reports to this site?
 
Neither one are S-3. Look more like Catalina / PBY

Agreed. I'm not sure it is a Catalina given how narrow the wings are. We were thinking more like a Neptune or S2F.

- brett
 
Two things that would help...

1. Do you have the ability to give any kind of dimensions? If the wingspan is known, or even the width between ribs, it would definitely help narrow down the search.

Unfortunately, I didn't bring a measuring stick with me on either dive (I do sometimes, not being facetious). The relative ratios of struts, etc. should be very accurate for the photogrammetry model but I don't have absolute dimensions. If I go back, I will definitely do that.

2. If the pictures on your site would link to a larger image so that we could zoom in better on individual sections. I'm having a hard time discerning details from the small pictures.

I will try to post a few of the key areas (i.e. the wing tips where the struts are more dense). Each of the models has 300-ish photos so I can't post them all (at least to the forum). I'd be happy to put them online and give you access if you send me a DM.

Have you gone through the Aviation Archeology site and tried to correlate accident reports to this site?

Yes, but that is a bit of a tough task. We've used that system to help identify numerous other wrecks but it really helps to know the type of aircraft first. There are so many of those records from that era that are incomplete or hard to nail down. For example, do you search on "San Diego" or "California" or "Point Loma" or ....

Thanks!

- brett
 
Photo of one wingtip end and a detailed screen capture of the relational dimensions. The circular cutouts might be a clue. I've also attached another photo from the middle area of the wing that might be a hinge but we're not sure.

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With the bomb cradle, I am leaning towards an SBU Vindicator. It had a lot of fabric covering on wings and fuselage.

Bomb cradle? Are you referring to this other post:


- brett
 
Bomb cradle? Are you referring to this other post:


- brett
I'm mixed up. Are we discussing two different crash sites?
 
I was referring to this photo which calls it a "bomb displacement device."
 

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