There are many misconseptions and confusions regarding the real performance of this fighter. If you look at the Specification of performance of IJN Fighters table from 10th september 1945, or US TAIC for George 21 or sources like Francillon. They all state the Performance of the N1K2-J was 595km/h at 5600m and 7:22 to 6000m rate of climb.
But they are wrong. Its not feasable and my only explanation to those performance figures is if it had a big external fuel tank under its fuselage which wasnt uncommon for it to mount.
Why are these figures not believable?
N1K2-J has 3800kg loaded weight and a Ha-45-21 (1990hp engine)
Ki-84 has 3600kg loaded weight and uses the same Ha-45-21 (1990hp engine)
Ki-84 with Ha-45-21 had top speed of 674km/h (687km/h according to US TAIC calculations)
It could climb to 6100m in 5:48 (from US TAIC)
Hello Laurelix,
Over the last few days, I have been reviewing the data I have collected on the N1K2-J and while I agree that the aircraft is a lot faster than the typically quoted 369 MPH (595 KPH), I don't entirely agree with your reasoning.
First of all, the TAIC may have listed the "George 21" at 369 MPH, but in one note that was reproduced in a collection of TAIC reports, it is also listed as 416 MPH @ 19,028 feet (669 KPH @ 5800 meters).
My belief is that the actual number is somewhere in between but much closer to the 416 MPH number.
Hopefully this is a chance for everyone to re examine what data we have and see how it fits together.
There is literally only 200kg weight difference between the two planes and we can see such huge difference in the rate of climb, nvm the top speed. Why would this plane with much better power to weight ratio compared to an A6M3 have a rate of climb worse compared to an A6M3? It makes no sense. Those performance figures just have to be with external fuel tank adding drag and the weight of it is definitly over 3800kg.
There is actually much more than just a 200 kg difference between these two aeroplanes. Besides general size and sharing the same engine, there are many detail differences that would affect maximum speed.
On the first image youll see a left and a right hand side with performance figures.
On the right hand side are the actual japanese flight tests results on the Prorotype N1K2-J which was using derated Ha-45-21 since the engine was suffering issues at the time. It achieved 611km/h at 6000m at military Power and it could climb to 6000m in 6:20 at military power. On the left hand side are the japanese estimated performance values for N1K2-J once the engine is running at its full 1990hp power setting, however its overoptimistic since the engine didnt have as much power at 6000m as they thought it would. They estimated 644km/h at 6000m at military power and 5:15 to 6000m at military power. The actual performance would be about 628km/h at 6000m at military power and 5:30 to 6000m at military power. At WEP the top speed would be about 652km/h
As you can see now it actually looks believable.
Top Speed: (WEP)
N1K2-J - Roughly 652km/h
Ki-84 - Roughly 672km/h
It's unsurprising the final result shows only 20km/h difference in top speed between N1K2-J and Ki-84 when both are using full power Ha-45-21 (1990hp) engine because
N1K2-J with de-rated Ha-45-21 engine achieved 611km/h at 6000m whilst Ki-84 with the same de-rated engine achieved 631km/h at 6000m at Military Power.
There are many problems with the table that you posted.
First of all, although this was a derated Ha-45-21 with SIMILAR power to the Ha-45-11, it wasn't really a Ha-45-11.
The -11 and -21 differed in maximum RPM, maximum manifold pressure and possibly a few other things.
As for the fully rated Ha-45-21 not making the level of power that was expected, the ones tested by the TAIC and notably the one tested at Middletown was able to equal or exceed most of the power specifications.
One other thing worth noting is that these tests were corrected for 6000 meters altitude while the actual critical altitude for military power for this engine was 6500 meters. That would suggest that if there is any significant ram effect at all, the maximum speed should be achieved at a slightly higher altitude. For the Ki 84, this altitude at military power is listed as 7000 meters. I suspect this also to be the case for the N1K2-J.
Note:
Taic used calcaulations to state Ki-84 top speed. the drag coefficient is a bit overoptimistic. I used the japanese Ki-84 manaul which states 624km/h at 6000m at military power top speed using the Ha-45-11 (1800hp) engine which is what the early Ki-84's had. 1460hp at 5700m = 624km/h at 6000m. With 1625hp at 6000m using this same drag coefficient gives you about 648km/h. At WEP youre looking at about 672km/h
I would have to agree with you that the numbers here do not seem to fit together. The only thing I can think of at the moment that makes sense is that the 624 KPH (388 MPH) @ 6000 meters is correct but that the actual maximum speed for the Ki 84 at military power was greater than that and achieved closer to 7000 meters.
At J-Aircraft there was mention of captured documents listing the maximum speed of a Ki-84 (Improved) at 688 KPH (427 MPH) with a fully rated Ha-45 and with a power output equivalent to what was achieved by Middletown at WEP rating (1800 HP). This suggests to me that the TAIC speed estimate for Ki-84 had some corroboration.
The military power listing you might want to try is 1700 HP (metric) at 6400 meters or 1676 HP.
Now back to the N1K2-J:
Another hint that the N1K2-J might be a bit faster is that the TAIC test of a N1K1-J listed a speed of 408 MPH @ 20,000 feet. According to the graph, speed at Military power is around 407 MPH @ 21,500 feet.
The N1K2-J had an improved and more streamlined cowl and also did not have the two underwing cannon pods.
As for similarity to the Ki-84, the N1K2-J actually had a slightly shorter and deeper fuselage. The wing span was greater and there was about 2.5 meters^2 more wing area. The airfoil used was also different. Although the engines were the same, the propeller was considerably bigger for the N1K2-J.
Firepower:
4x 20mm Type 99 Mk 2 (225 rounds per gun)
The actual ammunition loads were 200 round for each inboard gun and 250 rounds for each outboard gun as compared to the 150 rounds per 20 mm cannon for the Ki-84.
- Ivan.