Ad: This forum contains affiliate links to products on Amazon and eBay. More information in Terms and rules
A-W Ensign made as a bomber instead as a transport...
Now that's an interesting thought Tomo.
What are your thoughts here - how would you do it?
I've read it had an appalling climb performance - something like 60 seconds to reach 500 ft.
It is a high-wing aircraft, and big, so bomb bay can be big and unrestricted. Turrets as per Whitley.Bomb-bay?
Turrets?
The folding wing, navalized Spitfire that Richard Fairey refused to make instead of the Fulmar.Which airplane(s) do you think should be considered as missed opportunities to either the nation that came up with the original or to aviation in general. Lets use the period 1930 to 1941 as a rough limit.
The basic shape is spot-on.
The folding wing, navalized Spitfire that Richard Fairey refused to make instead of the Fulmar.
Trouble with Sea Hurricanes is that they don't fit on many of the RN's carriers. Until HMS Indomitable enters service in 1941, after Courageous and Glorious are sunk the only fast carrier that can operate the Sea Hurricane is HMS Furious. Of course if we have an earlier Seafire instead of the Fulmar that might be moot.Now that makes sense. And as an interim, get some Sea Hurricanes on a carrier deck sooner, and DON'T let the single-seat fighter design tender go to Blackburn!
The internal structure would have to completely redone between the hangar deck(s) and the flight deck.Drifting off a bit, I wonder how extensive a refit it would've been to increase the size of the remaining carriers lifts. That might get some more fighters at sea.
Ark Royal would have been a big job, but well worth it if only to remove her double decker lifts where no aircraft could transit from the lower hangar to the flight deck. Furious, Eagle and Hermes would have been easier. Hermes already had her lifts enlarged in the the 1920s but they were still too narrow for non-folding monoplanes. Mind you the aft lift on Hermes may be as wide as possible already if you look at where it's located, essentially in the open sea.The internal structure would have to completely redone between the hangar deck(s) and the flight deck.
Perhaps not as complex on USN carriers as it would be for RN carriers due to their integral armored flight deck.
It would also mean the carrier would be out of service while modifications were made and if the Navy is down on numbers of carriers due to battle attrition, it's not going to happen.
Trouble with Sea Hurricanes is that they don't fit on many of the RN's carriers.
It's the Sea Hurricane's lack of folding wings that excludes it from the narrow lift carriers. Skuas fit all ships. Though the Fulmar is too long for Hermes' lift, as the T shape prevents angled positioning on the lift. There was no attempt at a folding Hurricane so unlike the Seafire we can't really consider the former a lost opportunity.Let's not forget that the Blackburn Skua, the fighter/dive bomber was ordered in 1935 and was quite a bit bigger than a Hurricane. Admirals first discussed the idea of a navalised Hurricane in 1937, preferring the idea to the Skua, which had yet to enter service and was believed by some admirals to be obsolescent before it had entered service.
It's the Sea Hurricane's lack of folding wings that excludes it from the narrow lift carriers.
If we're including aircraft or mods that were never proposed or seriously considered as "lost opportunities" then we're opening a Pandora's Box of examples. Early support of Whittle with Sea Vampire entering service in 1943-44? But I don't think this thread is about fantasy, but instead covers rejected or delayed aircraft that present real lost opportunities to make an impactful difference. However it's not my house and if we want to go the fantasy route then fill your boots.The Sea Hurricane as it was an expedient in 1940/41 yes, but presumably in an alternate reality, which we are discussing in this thread….
However it's not my house and if we want to go the fantasy route then fill your boots.