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Okay, I'm not an engineer or an A&P, and I don't play either on TV...No doubt that everyone here has read many times of instances when Merlin engined aircraft were hit in the radiator that the pilot had a very few minutes to either land or bail out before the airplane went up in flames.
But I read of an incident in a book I cannot locate right now where that did not happen. I believe it was Don Blakeslee's unit, flying a long range escort mission in the Mustang when one airplane took a hit in the radiator and the pilot prepared to bail out. Blakeslee told him not to bail out but to throttle back and start pumping the primer to inject raw fuel into the engine to keep it cool. It worked, and the pilot flew all the way back to Great Britain, pumping the primer all the way. By the time he got home his glove was worn out and his hand was worn down to the bone, but he made it.
I have wondered why I never read of any other cases of pilots saving the airplane by using the primer. It turns out that the P-51B Mustangs being flown on that mission had manual primers. You grabbed a knob, pulled the plunger out and then pushed it back in. But the later P-51's had electric primers where you pushed on a button for a second or two. I can only assume that the electric primer would not operate after the engine was running, since there would be no reason to use it under those conditions.
In fact, one thing you check very carefully on a light aircraft with a manual primer is to make sure it is locked before takeoff, since having it come loose can cause the engine to quit. One trick in cold weather is to prime the engine and leave the primer open, pulled out, so to increase the fuel flow while at low RPM and keep the engine running until it warms up. Obviously you have to be careful to close it and lock it before taking off.
However I have never read of a Spitfire pilot cooling a Merlin by pumping the primer, even though the pilot's manual for the Mk IX shows it has a manual pump. I wonder if it has to do with the carburetor on the Spits being the float type rather than the Bendix pressure injection carbs used on the American Merlins from the very beginning?
Okay, I'm not an engineer or an A&P, and I don't play either on TV...
That being said, dumping raw fuel into the induction trunk causes the engine to run cool enough that it can continue to run without proper coolant? Raw fuel in the induction trunk will lower the induction temperature, but I'm not seeing how that effects the temperature of the block and the heads. Additionally I would think that too much raw fuel introduced into the induction trunk in flight will choke the engine. If this event really occurred, I am inclined to think the damage to the cooling system was not that severe.
Hopefully someone with real knowledge of such things will chime in.
That is one way of looking at it, in the Battle of Britain pilots frequently just landed where they could but their aircraft were designed to land on grass fields and the airfield was a grass field too. An RAF pilot knew there were other aircraft at home all he had to do was get there, was it the same for a L/W pilot and if it took him days to get there would he be accused of cowardice?Yep, given that the DB was fuel injected, making it run very rich was not an option.
Goring once said, "One of our biggest problems is that Luftwaffe pilots want to sleep in their own bed at night." They would get shot up attacking USAAF bombers and then ignore the many alternate airfields available and always try to make it back to their home field, and crash along the way. During the BoB I do not think that RAF pilots were at all averse to landing at any available airfield if they got shot up, but of course they were over their own country.
It quite possibly is true, but the Merlin eventually reached 2000BHP and at that output you take any cooling you can. The big USA and UK air cooled engines also relied heavily on oil cooling as part of the whole setup.I do not know if it is true, but I have read that the Merlin relied on oil cooling of the engine to a significantly higher degree than other liquid cooled engines of similar power. Even if this is true, it would not necessarily mean that it would make enough difference to allow the engine to keep on running for a significantly additional amount of time with the liquid cooling system non-functional.
However I have never read of a Spitfire pilot cooling a Merlin by pumping the primer, even though the pilot's manual for the Mk IX shows it has a manual pump. I wonder if it has to do with the carburetor on the Spits being the float type rather than the Bendix pressure injection carbs used on the American Merlins from the very beginning?
Later Merlins in Spitfires had pressure injection carbs. The Merlin 66, for example was fitted with one.
Well, in the P-51H they took the oil cooler out of the radiator airscoop and located it in the engine compartment, which improved engine cooling considerably, eliminating the problem of the engine overheating while idling on the ground. So the oil cooler could not have required much airflow, even with the high powered -9 engine.
Okay, I'm not an engineer or an A&P, and I don't play either on TV...
That being said, dumping raw fuel into the induction trunk causes the engine to run cool enough that it can continue to run without proper coolant? Raw fuel in the induction trunk will lower the induction temperature, but I'm not seeing how that effects the temperature of the block and the heads. Additionally I would think that too much raw fuel introduced into the induction trunk in flight will choke the engine. If this event really occurred, I am inclined to think the damage to the cooling system was not that severe.
Hopefully someone with real knowledge of such things will chime in.
Is that what happened? If the radiator fails on my car the engine doesn't ignite a fire, instead the engine seizes and stops running.No doubt that everyone here has read many times of instances when Merlin engined aircraft were hit in the radiator that the pilot had a very few minutes to either land or bail out before the airplane went up in flames.
The glycol coolant was flammable until the Merlin Mk X was introduced which used a glycol water mix. Quote Merlin development might have stagnated after 1940, any further increases in power needed a more efficient means of transferring the heat away from the engine. Rolls Royce responded with a mixture of water and Ethylene Glycol which was put under pressure. This mixture also reduced the fire risk associated with using pure Ethylene Glycol. This system was first used in the Merlin XII used in the Spitfire Mk II. The rapid introduction of this system was only made possible by everything Rolls Royce had learnt about pressurized cooling when developing the Goshawk and early Merlin condenser systems. and …. Introduced with the Merlin X, the use of 70-30% water glycol coolant mix, improved engine reliability and removed the fire hazard and reduced oil leaks compared with earlier marks.Is that what happened? If the radiator fails on my car the engine doesn't ignite a fire, instead the engine seizes and stops running.
Air-cooled engines are known to be in reality "fuel cooled." They generally run at much richer mixture ratios than do liquid cooled engines, which is the main reason they are no longer popular in automobiles. Aside from the heat of vaporization of the fuel, rich mixtures run much cooler than do leaner ones
Hard to say, perhaps someone has a better description but one website claims the P-51H used a heat exchanger for the oil cooler using glycol (or glycol/water?) that was shared with either the normal cooling system or the supercharger intercooler. Maybe I am reading it wrong?
ANyone have a manual for the "H"?
an oil cooler is going to require a fair amount of airflow. about 20-25% of the airflow of the radiator on a liquid cooled engine.