P47 D15-RE RELICS 358th FG.

[frenchie]

Hello everyone,
I'd like to show you these P-47 Thunderbolt relics; the aircraft's history is known. Since I don't have the parts manual for this plane, I'm turning to you for help once again. The relics recovered back in the day came 90% from the tail section, along with wing flaps that were in very clean condition and had been removed at the time.
Do you think these relics came from the wing or the tail of this aircraft?
Thanks, and have a great Sunday.
Laurent

 

[Wurger]

The parts with the 89 prefix seem to be of a P-47D while the one with the prefix 99 seems to be of a P-51A. The last letter "L" of the number indicates the port side of the aircraft.

 

[frenchie]

The parts with the 89 prefix seem to be of a P-47D while the one with the prefix 99 seems to be of a P-51A. The last letter "L" of the number indicates the port side of the aircraft.

Hi Wurger,
That relic is strange, because both prefixes—89 and 99—are present on the same part?
I've never seen that before. But I'm sure it's from a P-47.
Thanks.

 

[Wurger]

Hi Wurger,
That relic is strange, because both prefixes—89 and 99—are present on the same part?
I've never seen that before. But I'm sure it's from a P-47.
Thanks.

According to the list of the US manufacturers' prefixes I have these were used. The 89, 93 and 101 I have seen on the P-47 assembling drawings. But not the 99. However I may be wrong.

P-47 D Republic = 89,93,101-
P-47 N Republic = 96-
P-51 North American = 91-
P-51 A North American = 99-

 

[cvairwerks]

89C22309 is a Flap hinge bearing, for Sta 118
99C22161 is a Trailing Edge Rib Assembly Sta 115
89P64165 is a Prop Governor Belcrank Assembly
Wasn't able to identify the gearbox. Would need to crawl thru the P-47 IPB to see if it can be found without knowing the part number of it or the bracket it's mounted on.

 

[frenchie]

According to the list of the US manufacturers' prefixes I have these were used. The 89, 93 and 101 I have seen on the P-47 assembling drawings. But not the 99. However I may be wrong.

P-47 D Republic = 89,93,101-
P-47 N Republic = 96-
P-51 North American = 91-
P-51 A North American = 99-

I agree with you, but 89 and 99 on the same element—I've never seen that before!

 

[Wurger]

I agree with you, but 89 and 99 on the same element—I've never seen that before!

Same here. Perhaps a mistake while stamping. Not sure though. Anyway it looks we got the answer in cvairwerks' post above.

 

[frenchie]

89C22309 is a Flap hinge bearing, for Sta 118
99C22161 is a Trailing Edge Rib Assembly Sta 115
89P64165 is a Prop Governor Belcrank Assembly
Wasn't able to identify the gearbox. Would need to crawl thru the P-47 IPB to see if it can be found without knowing the part number of it or the bracket it's mounted on.

Hi Cvairwerks,
Thanks a lot for your reply; I know more now. On the part with the crank, the aluminum section lifts up, and I found some numbers underneath which I've included in the photo. I don't think it's for a P-47 anymore, since the first two digits are 88.
Thanks.
Laurent

 

[Wurger]

The prefix 88 may indicate T6C, T6D.

 

[cvairwerks]

Here's a screenshot of the next assembly block for the 89C22309 drawing:

Shows that the drawing is effective for certain P-72's, XP-72's, XP-47J's *P-47D's and P-47D's.

Sometimes Block and serial number coding has a significant affect in how the next assembly listings and parts catalog data are interpreted. When large number of varying versions of a particular aircraft were built it's important to read them correctly.

 

[cvairwerks]

For additional info, here's the BOM for the 99C22196 drawing:

It shows that to build the 22196 assembly, you need the following parts:
99C22397-2
89C22309-10 ( In this case, the -10 is simply a material change after all available original material is used up in production, per note 5)
99C22196-2
99C22196-1

It can get complicated when you have numerous assemblies coming together and each of those has assemblies and individual parts. But understanding how it all relates, lets you climb BOMS to find part numbers or drawings where you have no individual part number or only a partial for the item you are interested in.

 

[frenchie]

For additional info, here's the BOM for the 99C22196 drawing:

View attachment 888077

It shows that to build the 22196 assembly, you need the following parts:
99C22397-2
89C22309-10 ( In this case, the -10 is simply a material change after all available original material is used up in production, per note 5)
99C22196-2
99C22196-1

It can get complicated when you have numerous assemblies coming together and each of those has assemblies and individual parts. But understanding how it all relates, lets you climb BOMS to find part numbers or drawings where you have no individual part number or only a partial for the item you are interested in.

Thanks, Cvairwerks, for all this information!

 

[Sabrejet]

The PN format isn't correct for NAA products, so not T-6 or P-51. NAA part numbers are stamped/marked in the format xx-xxxxxx or xx xxxxxx (or xxx-xxxxxx etc). Those above don't have any spacing, and I doubt any errors have been made in their marking.