Revigny sur ornain. Lancaste4

[Mustang65]

Good morning all,

barn exit in revigny sur ornain (france, lorraine)

I present you these few pieces, it seems to me that they are sheets of one of the lancasters shot down during the raids on the railroad.

would it be possible to identify precisely where these elements were positioned?

moving piece at the sight of the surveys carried out during the previous missions ...

raised markings:

75 3469 602


thank you

 

[Mustang65]

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[ian_]

You have the rear fuselage side of a Curtiss Hawk 75. The style of lettering is American, not British. I have some of another French contract Hawk, and the part numbers begin with 75. An very interesting bit of Battle of France history, or a later training loss.

 

[MiTasol]

Sorry to disappoint you but that is definitely not from a Curtiss of the Hawk 75/81/87 series aircraft.

Before the P-40N Curtiss Hawk part numbers are always nn-nn-nnn or nn-nn-nnn-* and model 75 parts are common throughout the H81 (Tomahawk) and H87 (Kittyhawk) variants of the P-40 Warhawk series aircraft as well as the H75 Mohawk series. A small number of P-40N part numbers were 87-nnn-nnnn.

75- numbers were also used by Boeing on the B-17, Stearman on their model 75 (PT-13/17/18 etc) and by North American but NAA numbers are 75-nnnnn or -nnnnnn. That is definitely not a part from a Stearman or NAA aircraft. I would be very surprised if no British or European manufacture used 75- numbers but I am not aware of any. IF deHavilland had a model 75 the part numbers on that would start with 75 tho probably with a letter prefix.

No-one with any real knowledge would immediately equate a 75- number with only the Curtiss H75 series aircraft

I will check out the B-17 numbers later at home as that structure definitely looks Boeing to me..

 

[MiTasol]

From page 383 of the B-17 parts catalog 75-3469 is a non procurable part relating to the bomb bay doors and bomb hangars and shown in figure 72.
602 is one of the many subparts that make up the 3469 major assembly. NP parts are major structure that cannot be replaced but must be repaired in situ like the ring frame that item 24 and 29 is close to. 65-3469 is in the same area but I do not know what it is.

One of the parts shown in one of your photos is probably item 24 or 29.

 

[herman1rg]

Awesome find and subsequent information.

 

[Mustang65]

Hello,

thank you so much! you are wells of science !!!!

a b17 is indeed crashed on this sector, my great grandmother was sheltering the pilot ... so here I am more than happy !!!!

alex.

thanks again!!!

 

[ian_]

Good spot, MiTasol, having seen a lot of 75- numbers I always jump to Curtiss. Never seen 75 on a B-17, every day is a school day. This looks to be the area: B-17 | B-17 Bomb Bay doors

 

[MiTasol]

Wow - never saw one that clean. Yep - right area
75 numbers show up on many aircraft as listed above plus some civil types. One advantage of doing restoration from the 60s to late 90s
Curtiss Bell and NAA numbers make sense but Boeing are always all over the place with no apparent logic.