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You have completely and I believe deliberately misrepresented my post. You have previous in this regard so I won't get too bothered by it.For figuring aircraft costs, the hours worked by a slave before death are irrelevant.
They aren't irrelevant morally and should never be so, but they are with regard to aircraft costs.
This didn't start out as a discussion of human condition, it was about aircraft costs. I'd rather keep it apolitical since there is no valid reason for what happened in WWII regarding slave labor.
The prop was damaged.View attachment 650712 Apparently this is the Jug that flew through an olive grove, funny how everything is damaged except the prop?. Don't get me wrong I love the Thunderbolt but I have a theory that planes that would not have normally made it home did as the Luftwaffe was forced back further and further to Germany.
The Supermarine Spitfire was very light. What about the Hawker stuff? Hurricanes, Typhoons and Tempests could take a beating.They were far more substantially built. US standards resulted in significantly, arguably excessively, robust and heavy airframes.
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View attachment 650711I love the Jug but Lets not kid ourselves, a burst of 20mm Mine/API/SAPI's anywhere is going to disable the aircraft at best, cause a fire or explosion at worst.
I imagine that if my son ever learned to fly, this is what his plane would end up looking like.The prop was damaged.
According to the report, he was strafing a German convoy and was able to pull up at the last moment, flying through the tree-tops like a five ton hedge trimmer.
There's other photos, showing damage details, including bits of wood sticking out of the engine.
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I might suggest looking a bit closer at the damage to the Brazilian P-47.That's not missing "most of its wing". It's missing just the tip. The kink in the trailing edge of the wing, where the flap meets the aileron, is clearly visible, as are 2 of the hinges for the aileron. Also note that the guns are some way behind the 3 men sitting on the wing. The break seems to be around the area of the outboard aileron hinge...so it's missing perhaps a foot off the tip, nothing more.
I don't want to be pedantic, but the missing portion seems to be about from the end rib of the ammunition tray outboard. So from about the pitot tube and out, maybe a little more.The missing portion of the wing starts at the weapon bay, leaving just the portion from the fuselage to just past the Main gear bay.
So where's the four .50s?I don't want to be pedantic, but the missing portion seems to be about from the end rib of the ammunition tray outboard. So from about the pitot tube and out, maybe a little more.
Behind the men. You can see the gun barrels clearly behind the gentleman on the leading edge's left leg. The exposed rib is solid fore and aft, so the break is somewhere outboard of the ammunition trays, which extended a considerable distance out from the gunsSo where's the four .50s?
It's interesting to see the effort to play down the P-47's attributes.
Let's keep in mind that it wasn't invinsible - it had white stars, not black crosses, so it could be shot down.
But in the end, it wasn't a sports car like the Spitfire or Mustang, it was a dump truck...and was built like it.
The prop was damaged.
According to the report, he was strafing a German convoy and was able to pull up at the last moment, flying through the tree-tops like a five ton hedge trimmer.
There's other photos, showing damage details, including bits of wood sticking out of the engine.
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You can notice the Curtiss Electric logo on the prop.A propeller is much stronger than a sheet metal cowling so would show less visible damage but that prop has taken a beating. I think it's a great advertisement for whoever made it Hamilton or Curtiss? I am not too knowledgeable on props.
The Spitfire wasn't particularly light when compared to its contemporaries, it wasn't even particularly light when compared to a Hurricane. Sources differ but the 8 x .303 Hurricanes generally were only about 400 pounds heavier than the equivalent Spitfire. That is possibly down to the size of the aircraft a Hurricane was a little bit bigger in all dimensions.The Supermarine Spitfire was very light. What about the Hawker stuff? Hurricanes, Typhoons and Tempests could take a beating.
As I said I don't know about propellers that could be a logo for Hamilton for all I knewYou can notice the Curtiss Electric logo on the prop.