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Guess I asked too many questions. Never mind.If not damaged in combat or other use, what were the typical hours operation of P&W, Bristol, and BMW radial engines, as well as D-B 600 series, Jumo 200 series, Allison, and R-R Merlin engines before certain maintenance was required?
Fuel (presumably), oil, coolant, hydraulic fluids checked and added for each sortie?
How many hours before "tune ups" like carburetor or FI adjustments, timing, ignition, valve adjustments, spark plugs, etc?
And how many hours before major overhauls, like valves, valve seats, rings, pistons, bearings, re-boring, etc.?
At what point was an engine considered worn out and not rebuildable, and therefore scrapped?
Was the "power egg" system used by most air forces?
If this has been covered by other threads, please direct me there.
Thanks!
Many of the individual questions have books written about them for each engine, and each one is a history. "Merlin engine" is just a general term, it was changed in all sorts of ways continuously during the time it was in service.Guess I asked too many questions. Never mind.
Don't take it that way - they're all relevant questions, but the same info could be gained from one or two questions. For someone reading the thread, a wall of questions is pretty hard to get through.Guess I asked too many questions. Never mind.
We had a similar situation in the 1970's when the Sea King HS2 was entering service. I can't remember which unit it was but one had a much worse record for availability and tried to compensate by increasing the maintenance cycle. The result was of course they made the situation worse.This is an interesting article regarding wartime maintenance at Coastal Command : https://blog.aopa.org/aopa/2014/01/14/the-waddington-effect/
Thanks.Don't take it that way - they're all relevant questions, but the same info could be gained from one or two questions. For someone reading the thread, a wall of questions is pretty hard to get through.
The P-40 Maintenance Manual (there's a copy on the forum somewhere) has the info, and includes, pre-flight, daily, 25, 50, and 100 hour periods, daily and pre-flight are visual checks to make sure there's nothing obvious (broken, dirty, etc) to be done. The other checks involve more in-depth checking and adjustment as necessary.
A History of Aircraft Piston Engine Lubricants. Robert V. Kerley page 2613There are many rather unusual features involved in the lubrication of aircraft engines, for example, there were no oil changes by the USAAC. The "no oil change" practice was initiated by Lt. Frank D. Klein who was in charge of the Fuel and Oil Unit, (later Branch) at Wright Field (about 1935) . This practice was continued throughout World War IT. Some leeway was given in Technical Orders during the war to permit local decisions on drain periods. Permission was given to change oil in areas in which dust and sand was frequently encountered. Oil was always changed whenever an engine was replaced.
I agree - good questions but make them more specific rather than using a shotgunDon't take it that way - they're all relevant questions, but the same info could be gained from one or two questions.
The P-40 Maintenance Manual (there's a copy on the forum somewhere) has the info, and includes, pre-flight, daily, 25, 50, and 100 hour periods, daily and pre-flight are visual checks to make sure there's nothing obvious (broken, dirty, etc) to be done. The other checks involve more in-depth checking and adjustment as necessary.
This is an interesting article regarding wartime maintenance at Coastal Command : https://blog.aopa.org/aopa/2014/01/14/the-waddington-effect/
Many of the individual questions have books written about them for each engine, and each one is a history. "Merlin engine" is just a general term, it was changed in all sorts of ways continuously during the time it was in service.
August 2019 BC (Before Covid), I attended an air show in Nampa, ID. One of the stars was Dottie Mae, a P-47D recovered from an Austrian lake, and restored in nearby Caldwell, ID. See photo and article. After watching Dottie Mae start up, which produced a whole lot of oil smoke, I asked one of the ground crew how often they change the oil. He said we don't change the oil in normal maintenance, we just add more.I found an interesting paragraph in an SAE paper.
A History of Aircraft Piston Engine Lubricants. Robert V. Kerley page 2613
SAE Transactions Vol. 90, Section 3: 810614––811014 (1981), pp. 2601-2628 (28 pages)
A History of Aircraft Piston Engine Lubricants on JSTOR
Robert V. Kerley, A History of Aircraft Piston Engine Lubricants, SAE Transactions, Vol. 90, Section 3: 810614––811014 (1981), pp. 2601-2628www.jstor.org
An example of this is the Typhoon operating in summer over Normandy. The air filter system had to be changed as the fine dust over theThrow in operating in dust, or worse still fine dust, and overhaul lives drop dramatically.
Most of those engines used oil at of rate of several gallons an hour (per engine for multi engine aircraft).August 2019 BC (Before Covid), I attended an air show in Nampa, ID. One of the stars was Dottie Mae, a P-47D recovered from an Austrian lake, and restored in nearby Caldwell, ID. See photo and article. After watching Dottie Mae start up, which produced a whole lot of oil smoke, I asked one of the ground crew how often they change the oil. He said we don't change the oil in normal maintenance, we just add more.
This link describing Dottie Mae is from an air show in Chino, CA:
I wonder what he considered "normal maintenance?"August 2019 BC (Before Covid), I attended an air show in Nampa, ID. One of the stars was Dottie Mae, a P-47D recovered from an Austrian lake, and restored in nearby Caldwell, ID. See photo and article. After watching Dottie Mae start up, which produced a whole lot of oil smoke, I asked one of the ground crew how often they change the oil. He said we don't change the oil in normal maintenance, we just add more.
This link describing Dottie Mae is from an air show in Chino, CA:
Most of those engines used oil at of rate of several gallons an hour (per engine for multi engine aircraft).
Even using a 52-75 US gal drop tank called for several gallons more oil in the oil tank.
It might be possible for a few ounces (or a few pints?) to last dozens of hours as the oil tank is refilled 10-20 times with fresh oil but old dirty oil wasn't a problem like cars even the 1930s cars.