Smiths jaeger mk3b

[joemc]

My experience with such items says if it was sold officially by the AM or the RAF there should be something we can call a specification attached. This contains all the item history of its service usually. Sometimes these were sold off without any info just because these were the new old stock and weren't needed anymore. But many of these objects were either obtained from a scarpyard or taken privately ( usually without official permission ) by maintenace crew , crew members, pilots just for as a souvenir without its history. Sometimes a such item can be obtained from a crash site but it is not the case. Being taken in remembrance of service for instance a such item is inherited by a couple of a family generations/members usually. It results in that nobody can still remember how and from the item was got. Also it happens often it is passed to someone else and the history track is lost.

Makes perfect sense to me mate, it is a shame though all the history is forgotten it makes me sad.
Thanks for all the help mate much appreciated

 

[Wurger]

That's just is the collecting of old things. Persoanlly I would pay more attention to if a such item is genuine or not. The entire rest of the matter isn't too important in the case. Certainly it would be nice to know more but not always it is possible to find out the source and its story.

 

[joemc]

That's just is the collecting of old things. Persoanlly I would pay more attention to if a such item is genuine or not. The entire rest of the matter isn't too important in the case. Certainly it would be nice to know more but not always it is possible to find out the source and its story.

Yeah your right I'm over the moon with the clock and will treasure it, I just got a reply from the national archive and they said what you said really there's not much more to find, glad with the strings I've learned about it with your help.
Another question if you don't mind, I paid £300 for it and it runs and the stop click hand works too, I can set the time on the larger dial but the big hand only moves say ten minutes in 24 hours, the subsidiary dial I have no idea how to use?
I was quoted £300 for my watch maker to service it and cleans it he knows his stuff but wondering if it will just our price the clock if you know what I mean? Is it worth doing ?
Cheers
Joe

 

[Wurger]

Humm ... as memo serves the subsidiary dial indicates the trip time. Let's say that's a kind of a time counter. It should be reset ( both hands on the 12) by pressing of the right or left button once. The second pressing should start it. Unless the button has to be pushed up and then the hands set manulally at the 12. And then pressing the button down starts it. The large dial should work like a normal clock. I mean hours/minutes/second. If the big hand doesn't point the correct number of minutes it may indicate a problem with the clock mechanizm. Perhaps that's the reason the clock could be dismounted and replaced with a functional unit.
Anyway it depends on you only if you want to spend the money for the clock service. It's possible the cleaning may help with the measurement inaccuracy of the large hand. Maybe try to bargain with the watch maker for getting the price down slightly.

 

[coffman]

Yeah your right I'm over the moon with the clock and will treasure it, I just got a reply from the national archive and they said what you said really there's not much more to find, glad with the strings I've learned about it with your help.
Another question if you don't mind, I paid £300 for it and it runs and the stop click hand works too, I can set the time on the larger dial but the big hand only moves say ten minutes in 24 hours, the subsidiary dial I have no idea how to use?
I was quoted £300 for my watch maker to service it and cleans it he knows his stuff but wondering if it will just our price the clock if you know what I mean? Is it worth doing ?
Cheers
Joe

Hi, welcome to the forum, nice clock, if you do not know ? , you wind it antclockwise, left hand knob . if you look at my past posts there is one on a clock i found, and there are reply's from a member called fubar57. he may even post a reply as well. enjoy the clock, below is a photo of my clock . regards

 

[joemc]

Hi, welcome to the forum, nice clock, if you do not know ? , you wind it antclockwise, left hand knob . if you look at my past posts there is one on a clock i found, and there are reply's from a member called fubar57. he may even post a reply as well. enjoy the clock, below is a photo of my clock . regards

Hi Coffman
Thanks for the reply,
I've searched most cockpits images spits hurricane s bombers, can only find the 12hr mk 111a in photos, in your opinion what plane do you think the 24hr my one would be in,
The raf no 30 MU says mosquitoes Lancaster's or wellingtons ?

Cheers mate

 

[joemc]

All issued Omega www dirty dozen, Omega 6b/159, Omega 53 thin arrow

 

[coffman]

Hi Coffman
Thanks for the reply,
I've searched most cockpits images spits hurricane s bombers, can only find the 12hr mk 111a in photos, in your opinion what plane do you think the 24hr my one would be in,
The raf no 30 MU says mosquitoes Lancaster's or wellingtons ?

Cheers mate

Hi, i am thinking a bomber, because a spit/hurricane, would not need a 24 hour face, if you hit my name on the left hand side you can read the reply's i got on my post about the clock i found, also the number on your face 6A/839 should give you the aircraft type it was used in . it does not list your number, maybe send a message to the poster of the list, i have allways said "early war/ pre war, aircraft had clocks in, during mid war late war, they were not fitted because the plane got shot down end of clock" so they gave/ issued a wristwatch instead. also these clocks where used up to the 50s . regards

 

[joemc]

Hi, i am thinking a bomber, because a spit/hurricane, would not need a 24 hour face, if you hit my name on the left hand side you can read the reply's i got on my post about the clock i found, also the number on your face 6A/839 should give you the aircraft type it was used in . it does not list your number, maybe send a message to the poster of the list, i have allways said "early war/ pre war, aircraft had clocks in, during mid war late war, they were not fitted because the plane got shot down end of clock" so they gave/ issued a wristwatch instead. also these clocks where used up to the 50s . regards

Hi again

I have read all those posts they are very helpful, I was talking to someone else that seems to think my clock is probably coastal command used in Sunderland, Hudson or Catalina ?

 

[MiTasol]

Hi Joe

There should be a 6A/nnn number on the unit - if it is one of the ones below I can tell you which RAAF aircraft they were fitted to. Obviously the RAF operated additional types but this may help as obviously an RAF Spit V and RAAF Spit V use the same clock and so on with other aircraft types. 106A/ numbers are US made clocks used on US types.

 

[joemc]

Hi Joe

There should be a 6A/nnn number on the unit - if it is one of the ones below I can tell you which RAAF aircraft they were fitted to. Obviously the RAF operated additional types but this may help as obviously an RAF Spit V and RAAF Spit V use the same clock and so on with other aircraft types. 106A/ numbers are US made clocks used on US types.

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Hi thanks for the reply

It's the 6a/839 am 6a/839 mk 111b

Someone yesterday was telling me it was for coastal command ?

Cheers

Also if the date helps, it's November 1939
L 11 /39

 

[MiTasol]

Okay - that was definitely used on the Beaufort, DH84A Dragon and Hudson in RAAF and RAF service and maybe in other types that were not used in Australia. All three types were in service in 39.

 

[joemc]

Okay - that was definitely used on the Beaufort, DH84A Dragon and Hudson in RAAF and RAF service and maybe in other types that were not used in Australia. All three types were in service in 39.

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Wow that makes perfect sense thanks so much again

 

[joemc]

Okay - that was definitely used on the Beaufort, DH84A Dragon and Hudson in RAAF and RAF service and maybe in other types that were not used in Australia. All three types were in service in 39.

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Hi mate

Is there any way to find out what aircraft it was used in outside of Australia?

Thanks again

 

[MiTasol]

Not that I am aware of other than going through the parts catalogues for all the RAF and RN operated types but the RAF would have used them in the same types as the RAAF.

I will check with a friend to see if they were used in the Blenheim's as I believe he has a parts catalogue for the type though that may be only for one mark.

 

[joemc]

Not that I am aware of other than going through the parts catalogues for all the RAF and RN operated types but the RAF would have used them in the same types as the RAAF.

I will check with a friend to see if they were used in the Blenheim's as I believe he has a parts catalogue for the type though that may be only for one mark.

Ah that would be so great and very much appreciated.

 

[joemc]

Because you mentioned the Bristol Blenheim I searched cockpits

Also someone shared this with me a drawing of a PR spitfire cockpit he says they were used in coastal command

 

[VERSUCH]

Specs.
Cheers

 

[joemc]

Specs.
Cheers

Ah that's great thanks so much

 

[joemc]

More pics I've just found from this great forum of knowledge, safe to say now they were definitely used in Blenheim as well.