Jabberwocky,
This may sound ignorant Jabberwocky, but I never even thought of turn-speed.
That's a revelation to me, thank you.
PlanD,
The Freidrich was the best handling (probably) I know that.
The Gustav's (pre-G10) were sluggish, but the thing was it was the heavy DB605 in an unupgraded airframe mainly. Also the armament was a lot hevier - from 1X MG151 15/20 2X 7.92's (MG17?) of the Freidrich to sometimes 1 MG151/20, 2X MG131 13mm's 2X 30mm of some G6's!
So, at that time, the Me really piled on the pounds!
The G10 sorted a lot of problems though, as did the Kurfurst (though a lot were still overloaded).
How well the vertical rudder etc of the G10 helped performance I'm not sure, I know they made high-alt performance a lot better and I've heard they did the same for low altitudes.
Thanks for the cropped Spit turn info.
The Bf-109E had the slats to make it turn inside a Spitfire
That coming from you as well is a shock. Being in England, all I usually hear is "The Spitfire could out-turn the Messerschmitt, everyone knows it yadayadayada...". I'm glad that you don't have your head in the sand.
Out-turn the Spit! - I still can't get over it! I knew parity was about right, but I seemed to be the only one!!
For e.g. my grandad even got a shock when he learned that the Germans had jets and I told him in the 90's!
I mentioned this before.
This is how propaganda can seriously hurt knowledge.
Anway, I'm rambling, back to buisness:
I know the slats opened asymetrically, so accuracy was thrown right off in a tight turn-fight. Accuracy was also usually one of the 'scmitts advantages, as you probably already know. That accuracy came at the price of user-friendliness...
Handling and ease of use can be as important as maneuverability.
I suppose turn performance figures could be for either yaw, or a half-roll turn? - Confusing me further!
Thanks to all for the info, it's a pleasure to learn from you.