WWII Movies Historians Absolutely Hate

[wuzak]

View: https://youtu.be/lVQB5zYc7pM?si=VuUgPq6diXBtYIgQ

I'm not sure that historians "hate" all of those.

Some of the issues cited seem to be minor errors.

 

[MIflyer]

Well, the part about the US forces at PH having models of fighter planes that did not come out until later presumably refers to the P-40E's being used to depict P-40B's. But while there were no P-40E's at PH in fact the P-40E was already in service and the majority of the P-40's in the PI were in fact E models, with only one unit equipped with B's.

While there wee Patton tanks portraying Tigers in the Bulge movie, it would have hard to use anything else. Funny thing is a totally fictional movie "Kelly's Heroes" has the best looking Tigers until "Fury" came out decades later, using a real one. The Tigers in KH reportedly were modified T-34's and look very convincing.

 

[Checkertail20]

A movie called Pearl Harbor should be about Pearl Harbor not about the Battle of Britain, the raid on Tokyo, nurses getting it on with the pilots, and whatever other side stories you can throw in the movie.

 

[wuzak]

A movie called Pearl Harbor should be about Pearl Harbor not about the Battle of Britain, the raid on Tokyo, nurses getting it on with the pilots, and whatever other side stories you can throw in the movie.

The reviewer for the local newspaper said that "pearl Harbor" was an excuse to have a lot of explosions!

 

[MIflyer]

By the way that often used "Awaken a Sleeping Giant" phrase was never uttered by Yamamoto. It was thunk up by the Tora Tora Tora film people as a way to have a less of a downer ending for the movie. Their defense for concocting it was, 'Well, he SHOULD have said that." It turns out that the sleeping giant analogy was actually used by an American newsman who had a little observation on the news he would present over the radio each Sunday evening; the one for 7 Dec 41 referred to a sleeping giant.

 

[MIflyer]

A movie called Pearl Harbor should be about Pearl Harbor not about the Battle of Britain, the raid on Tokyo, nurses getting it on with the pilots, and whatever other side stories you can throw in the movie.

The movie "I Bombed Pearl Harbor" ended with the guy in the title role floating in the sea next to the sinking IJN Akagi at Midway.

And the worst WW2 movie ever filmed must be that one that starred Van Johnson in the BoB, with the Germans flying Spitfires and the British flying Hispano Aviation HA-112's.

 

[GrauGeist]

30 seconds over Tokyo and Tora! Tora! Tora! were actually well done, especially in an era before CGI.

Pearl Harbor was basically the Titanic without icebergs - it was a sloppy love interest interrupted by explosions.

Patton was actually a good movie - yes, there were accuracy issues and they did the best they could with their pre-CGI props and the same can be said for Battle of the Bulge, too.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

One thing Patton got right was the mixed attitude about him.

Pearl Harbor takes the cake, or maybe Kelly's Heroes ties it. Fucking dreck, the both.

Rather than be negative, let's hear everyone's favorite WWII movie on the basis of accuracy? What movie do you think got it right?

 

[GrauGeist]

Rather than be negative, let's hear everyone's favorite WWII movie on the basis of

"Das Boot"

Hands down.

 

[Checkertail20]

The Great Escape is a good movie but no Americans were actually involved in the actually escape.

 

[SaparotRob]

One thing Patton got right was the mixed attitude about him.

Pearl Harbor takes the cake, or maybe Kelly's Heroes ties it. Fucking dreck, the both.

Rather than be negative, let's hear everyone's favorite WWII movie on the basis of accuracy? What movie do you think got it right?

Mr. Roberts.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Mr. Roberts.

Never seen, will watch. Sounds like that dickweed commanding USS Franklin, really.

 

[GrauGeist]

Mr. Roberts.

I was sad about the palm tree

 

[wuzak]

Surprised that U571 doesn't make the list.

Certainly less accurate than some of the ones on the list.

 

[special ed]

Battleground - 1949.
As an old person, I like the banter because I have heard similar. My favorite line in the movie is when filling the line with kitchen staff and one man says, "How do you work this thing, I ain't fired nothin' but the 03."
"This is a semi automatic, gas operated, 30 cal..."
"Look. Ya ain't sellin' to me. How does it work?"
"Oh, Ya just pull this back, put in the ammo and you're ready."

 

[Greg Boeser]

One thing Patton got right was the mixed attitude about him.

Pearl Harbor takes the cake, or maybe Kelly's Heroes ties it. Fucking dreck, the both.

Rather than be negative, let's hear everyone's favorite WWII movie on the basis of accuracy? What movie do you think got it right?

Kelly's Heroes is pure comic book fantasy, and makes no pretensions about being a serious war movie.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Kelly's Heroes is pure comic book fantasy, and makes no pretensions about being a serious war movie.

All the more reason to hate it.

 

[Shortround6]

Any "Historian" that thinks Kelly's Heroes was supposed to be "historical" got their degree out of a crackerjack's box when they were in Grade school.
Any of them offering up criticisms of "historical accuracy" of the Movies The Shadow or Tomb Raider?

Kelly's Heroes may have been more of an anti-war movie

 

[Engineman]

So, my personal fave's would be, Battle of Britain (1968), 12O'clock high (1949), Das Boot (German, TV about '87) and Catch-22 (1972?).
There are others that are good, I haven't seen All quiet on the Western front for over 50 years, same for The Cruel sea.

Eng

 

[Frog]

Battle of the Bulge (1965) is full of discrepancies and can rank as one of the sloppiest war movie.