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I thought it was "Roll" because of their sea heritage. Good to know.Get it right....
It's RULE BRITANNIA.
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I thought it was "Roll" because of their sea heritage. Good to know.Get it right....
It's RULE BRITANNIA.
I think the Army would have wised up and deleted those nose .30s to restore the full 30 rounds for the 37mm cannon. Having the two nose .30's reduced the cannon armament to 15 rounds.You may want to rethink that and get off the anti-british track.
"USAAC was generally pleased with the Airacobra, and an initial order for 80 production examples (Bell Model 13) was issued on August 10, 1939 under Contract AC13383. "
"Armament was one 37-mm cannon, two 0.50-inch and two 0.30-inch machine guns, all in the nose."
So the British just moved two of the .30 cal guns from the nose to the wings, and since they were using a cannon over 100lbs lighter than the American cannon, added another 24lb machine gun in each wing. Somehow this lighter weight armament than the US was using ruined the rest of the Production run?
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Its a song.I thought it was "Roll" because of their sea heritage. Good to know.
I thought it was "Roll" because of their sea heritage. Good to know.
I think the Army would have wised up and deleted those nose .30s to restore the full 30 rounds for the 37mm cannon. Having the two nose .30's reduced the cannon armament to 15 rounds.
I stand corrected. Good to know. Should I go back and correct my original post?It is related to their sea heritage. The chorus is:
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
and some had the gins added later
Absolutely the Army told the contractors what they wanted and the contractor built it. In any event, the 37mm cannon needed 30 rounds. And Bell was no more crooked than any other defense contractor, just smaller and less influential.There was no "restore" the full 30 rounds. The YP-39s (the model right before the C, there were no As or Bs) that had guns (most were completed without guns and some had the gins added later), had the 37mm with 15 rounds (the 30 round capacity required a different feedway). the two .50 cal guns with 200rpg and two .30 cal guns with 500rpg.
There was no early version of the P-39 with just the 37mm and two .50s unless it was one of the YP-39s without the full armament layout.
lets also remember that the USAAC told Bell (and other companies) what they wanted for guns, the companies might push back and say it won't fit or it will reduce performance by X amount, but the companies did NOT tell the USAAC what the armament should be ( they could offer a certain set up in the sales pitch like Republic and the eight .50s in the P-47B).
Larry Bell pushed for the .30s to be taken out but then his company had lied about the basic airplane could do performance wise and he may have been looking for the last few percent of performance to keep up the numbers.
Did they fit a cup holder, or was it fed through a tube?
And did it come with tonic?
Absolutely the Army told the contractors what they wanted and the contractor built it. In any event, the 37mm cannon needed 30 rounds. And Bell was no more crooked than any other defense contractor, just smaller and less influential.
Absolutely the Army told the contractors what they wanted and the contractor built it. In any event, the 37mm cannon needed 30 rounds. And Bell was no more crooked than any other defense contractor, just smaller and less influential.
So, those liars at Bell somehow got a second plane into production (P-63) before the end of the war. More lying?
I will let the Performance of the XP-76 off the hook as mere exuberance in the design phase since they didn't keep claiming the same performance after they flew the thing.
Way too heavy at 8900# and never got the 4 blade propeller. Six .50MGs AND a 37mm cannon. AAF should have just put the two stage engine in a P-39 already in production.XP-76 was a waste any way
I didn't think a two stage supercharger would fit in the existing P-39 airframe.Way too heavy at 8900# and never got the 4 blade propeller. Six .50MGs AND a 37mm cannon. AAF should have just put the two stage engine in a P-39 already in production.