8 BURIED HURRICANES FOUND....YEEEEEHAAAAAW!!!!!!!
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SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Can we bill Russia for them now?
Viking1066
Tech Sergeant
Thanks George. That was very interesting.
MiTasol
2nd Lieutenant
Not sure where to put this so guessing this is as good a place as any
Ukraine finds British WW2 Hurricane planes outside Kyiv
London sent the Hawker Hurricanes to the Soviet Union to help them fight against Nazi Germany.
www.bbc.com
Snautzer01
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More and pictures Ukraine finds British WW2 Hurricane planes outside Kyiv
Well I'll be!
buffnut453
Captain
Wait...hang on! Is this an actual case of aircraft being buried and found? Maybe I'll look again at investing in efforts to find those Spitfires in Burma! (only kidding)
More realistically, I'm sure there are plenty of aircraft restorers out there salivating over this find. It would be great to see these remains transformed into museum pieces...or even flying again.
More realistically, I'm sure there are plenty of aircraft restorers out there salivating over this find. It would be great to see these remains transformed into museum pieces...or even flying again.
MIflyer
1st Lieutenant
Okay, under Lend Lease they could have just given them back at the end of the war, but instead.....
I recall reading that when British forces encountered Soviet forces in the north of Norway late in WW2 they noted they had brought along P-39's still in their shipping crates.
I recall reading that when British forces encountered Soviet forces in the north of Norway late in WW2 they noted they had brought along P-39's still in their shipping crates.
Cool!
unkated
Airman
I can say compound interest, can you?
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Not in Russian.
Never fully documented then and largely forgotten today is that during WWII, there were two primary Chinas, National and People's Communist, both ostensibly partnering with the Allies, but constantly fighting between themselves. In addition, there were many factions and sub factions, and with shifting alliances and territorial control, a lot of our "Lend Lease" war supplies were hidden away or buried to be used against their "REAL" enemy! This same situation occurred in Eastern Europe with tribal alliances stronger than concepts of politics or national identity.
Johnny .45
Airman
Seriously? Why would Britain want a bunch of totally obsolete fighters back after the war? The allies already didn't know what to do with all the equipment they had, it was going to cost them a ton of money to dispose of it all. They were bulldozing heaps of brand new aircraft into pits and throwing them into the sea, because they needed every ship they had to transport the soldiers home, and they had way, way more tanks and planes and vessels than they needed or could man. They were discarding modern fighters, they would not have been happy to have the Soviets clogging up the ports trying to unload a bunch of useless old fighters and equipment that they would then have to ship and store somewhere and find time to cut up and dispose of. And it wouldn't have made the USSR happy to have to pay to ship them all, that's expensive, and pointless, and as far as they were concerned, all the equipment we were sending them was in recompense for the fact that they were doing all the actual fighting for several years. They felt that the least we could do is send them some planes and tanks while they fought 3/4 of the Wehrmacht and their allies. It would not ease political relations for us to then demand they send all stuff we "loaned" them back. Literally the only reason we called it a "loan" is because we couldn't say we were giving it to them for free.
And of course none of them would still exist it they had been sent back.
MIflyer
1st Lieutenant
That was an option given to them, whether the donor nations wanted the old stuff or not. Instead, after the USSR collapsed Russia did pay back some money for the equipment they had been given.
SaparotRob
Unter Gemeine Geschwader Murmeltier XIII
Dr. Emmet Brown, where are you now that we need you?
The writing is more than a little prejudicial. That was the deal with lend lease, destroy them or pay for them at 10% of the book value or return them. o one wanted to return them and by 1945 a knackered Hurricane, even at 10% of the book cost was no bargain at all.
