airman killed in pistol mishap at F.E. Warren AFB

Frog · Aug 24, 2025

As is emphasized at gun ranges, there are no accidental discharges, just negligent discharges.

Ivan1GFP · Aug 24, 2025

Frog said:
As is emphasized at gun ranges, there are no accidental discharges, just negligent discharges.

There are accidental discharges caused by mechanical failures.

GrauGeist · Aug 24, 2025

Even mechanical ADs have human involvement.

Ivan1GFP · Aug 24, 2025

GrauGeist said:
Even mechanical ADs have human involvement.

Agreed.
Chambering a round and having the firearm go off isn't exactly negligent.
Neither is chambering a round, applying the safety and having the gun go off.
Rules still require that muzzle not be pointed at anything valuable, but I do not believe the discharges would be negligent.

Thumpalumpacus · Aug 25, 2025

Ivan1GFP said:
Agreed.
Chambering a round and having the firearm go off isn't exactly negligent.
Neither is chambering a round, applying the safety and having the gun go off.
Rules still require that muzzle not be pointed at anything valuable, but I do not believe the discharges would be negligent.

In the case of the OP particularly, the human failure would seem to reside with the design or manufacture of the gun, rather than the end-user -- except that the gun was obviously pointed at a person, which should not happen unless intentional.

Frog · Aug 26, 2025

Air Force returns M18 pistols to service after inspections across nuclear force

Global Strike Command says it inspected about 8,000 of the handguns after the death of an airman in July. That death is under investigation.

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airman killed in pistol mishap at F.E. Warren AFB

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