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Thumpalumpacus said:
Only if they shut up about Finland and Sweden, would be my guess. Hardball is hardball and we each get half an inning.
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Could be an opportunity for Turkey to offload their Russian SAMs onto Ukraine. Removes the NATO interoperability problem. Makes them look like supportive team players. Gives Ukraine some needed additional air defence capability that could reach into occupied areas of the Donbas. Win-win-win.

The downside, of course, is that it would upset Moscow and I'm pretty sure Ankara doesn't want to do that.
 
Erdogan seems to be flexing a bit of muscle, tweaking both sides's noses a bit. He must be looking good at home. He influenced NATO this time and got his way. Russia might not be looking like a good long term bet with putin going hat in hand to Iran. "Will you be my friend?"
Erdogan okays the most amazing NATO additions. Why not grab a concession or two? Which frightens putler more? A Ukraine trying to get into the EU or a Freaking NATO Finland?. Is Ankara hosting talks between Ukraine and Mordor? I have read rumor(?) of Turkey providing escort for Ukrainian grain shipments. It would certainly help Ukraine to improve its air defense by getting those "HIMAR proof" S-400 systems. Turkey is a player.
As buffnut453 said "..a good opportunity to offload their Russian SAMS.." Man, those Orc weapons salesmen must be having a tough year.
 

This is pretty insightful, and thanks for posting it. I hadn't thought about it that way.
 
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I found this part weird.

"Dr Marina Miron, of the Centre for Military Ethics at King's College London, described Putin's "overall strategic goal" in securing the port, "Putin wants to share control over the Black Sea region."

I have to assume her accuracy and literacy are spot on, but I don't think Putin wants to share anything.
 
Admiral Beez said:
I have to assume her accuracy and literacy are spot on, but I don't think Putin wants to share anything.
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I think Putin is very much following in the footsteps of his predecessors from the 20th and 19th, and possibly many earlier centuries. I don't care about Putin, per se, but his domestic policies are dictatorial and his foreign policies beyond interventionist.
 

House authorizes training for Ukrainian pilots to use US aircraft

The House approved $100 million in funding to train Ukrainian pilots to use U.S. aircraft as part of the National Defense Authorization Act it passed 329-101 this week.
www.defensenews.com

Plan To Train Ukrainian Pilots On U.S. Jets Passed By House Of Representatives

After months of campaigning for new equipment, Ukrainian Air Force pilots could be poised to start training on U.S.-made fighter jets.
www.thedrive.com

Zelenskyy's Office confirms US plans to train Ukrainian fighter pilots on F-15, F-16 fighter jets

The United States plans to train Ukrainian fighter pilots on the F-15 and F-16 fighter jets, Andriy Yermak, head of the President's Office, said in a Telegram messenger post on July 15.
english.nv.ua
 
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