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I`ve heard this many times, and I`m afraid I dont believe it, and I have never once seen any evidence for either figure (I`m sure the 7000 is true, but I dont think
any supercharged aero V12 will have a parts count varying by more than about 25% to any other, what on earth could they be ?, surely this is
something like one person counting each carburettor jet and magneto winding wire, and the other person ignoring all the ancillaries)
Even if each bolt had an extra lock pin and washer it would not amount to more than a few hundred bits.
Until someone takes both engines to bits and films it, and counts the bits - this one is firmly in the "myths" basket for me. I dont know, maybe if you
picked a fuel injected two-stage 1946 Merlin-100 and the very first V-1710 ever made in 1930... but like-for-like, no way.
As you will see in my book, generally speaking in terms of the basic engine architecture, I rate the V-1710 more modern than the Merlin.
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I the only B-25 manuals I can find that states this are" B-25 Pilot's Handbook for B-25J, TB-25J, and PBJ-1J, AN 01-60GE-1, 1-Apr-1947" and "Flight Operating Instructions - B-25J, AN01-60GE-1, April 25,1953"Dam phone..
The F29 and F30 were rated for 1725 at 3200rpm. It wasn't used in service because the tip speed was too high on the propellers. This was a problem for many US aircraft. The P-47D with paddle blade propellers and the B-25 were both fast at lower rpm. Late war and post war manuals for the B-25 don't bother with listing mil power settings for this reason.
The Merlin appears more compact and looks like a much better overall design as far as fitting it into an aircraft, the Allison on the other hand has it's cam drive gearbox's? outside the profile of the engine and it's intake manifold looks convoluted with plenty of choke points.BIG difference in parts count from the intake manifold system alone.
Nice work. The last total I heard for the Merlin was a bit over 11,500 parts. Was also compiled from the parts list, but was done by an engine overhauler. Can't say, myself since I have never done a parts count personally.I the only B-25 manuals I can find that states this are" B-25 Pilot's Handbook for B-25J, TB-25J, and PBJ-1J, AN 01-60GE-1, 1-Apr-1947" and "Flight Operating Instructions - B-25J, AN01-60GE-1, April 25,1953"
On another note.
The V-1710F17R has 7413 parts and 925 part numbers
The V-1650-3 has 9764 and 1808 part numbers.
These figures include sub assemblies. This raises the totals a little more than what they should be.
I used the part catalogs "Parts Catalog - Allison V-1710-F, ALD-1F4D" and "Parts Catalog for V-1650-3, -7, -13, and Merlin 68 and 69 Aircraft Engines, AN 02A-55AC-4, 4-Mar-1949" to compile these.
The Allison intakes are equal-length units. The Merlin intakes aren't. So your observation there isn't quite inline with real life. The Merlin is not really much more compact in general. They are substantially the same size.The Merlin appears more compact and looks like a much better overall design as far as fitting it into an aircraft, the Allison on the other hand has it's cam drive gearbox's? outside the profile of the engine and it's intake manifold looks convoluted with plenty of choke points.
Golodnikov described the troubles with Allison engines in details in the second part of the conversation.From various sources it seems the Soviets were not using as good fuel, going higher rpm, and had lower quality oil.
70" and 75" are the best "official and approved" boosts I have seen for Allisons, too, despite Ben Kelsey recommending 75+" to the USAAC. The USAAC was nothing, if not conservative.That's why I bring up the Merlin 100 and Merlin 60/V-1650-7 engines. 81"/25 lbs boost wasn't a one off, given that RAF Mustang 3s (and even single stage Mosquitos) on V1 duty often ran that much boost.
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/150grade/Re-rating_V-1650-7_6sept44.jpg (not the most legible)
The best I've seen for war time use for the V-1710 was 70" for the P-38J/L (same as what the RAF did for their Allison Mustangs as early as 1942) and 75" for the XP-40Q.
And at sea level the lack of a multispeed or two stage supercharger shouldnt matter
Interesting things can be found on the interwebs…
However, there looks to be enough room for the second stage (unlike the P-39 Ground Hog)…And at sea level the lack of a multispeed or two stage supercharger shouldnt matter