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But with the breakup of the Soviet Union, those tanks of the Warsaw Pact nations were available to NATO for evaluationThe problem with comparing Soviet tanks is most information comes from the Israelis who captured plenty of T54 to T72 tanks. These weren't the tanks the Soviets and the more advanced Warsaw pact forces used, they were known as Monkey models with lower grade cast steel rather than laminated steel armour, less powerful engines, older electronics and noticeably poorer ammunition.
Yes, they were. Several nations have them, including the Ukraine.no T-64 was never exported
no T-64 was never exported so can not be outranged or outgunned in the 1st gulf war (but is clearly you're talking of 2nd the american don't fight the first)
however your description is contradictory depression in first -6 after -5, ammo load is first 40 after 42 you did copy and paste from different sources?
at cold war time thy were never exportedYes, they were. Several nations have them, including the Ukraine.
T-64s were not exported, as such, but the similar T-72 was. T-72s did suffer several defeats to Western style armoured forces.
Since the break up of the Soviet Union, several ex=Soviet countries have acquired them, and some second hand surplus types have found their way into some foreign service.
Its from one source, and i disagree that its contradictory. Different round types have different stowage requirements, more of one type may lead to a smaller loadf out overall.
As far as depression is concerned, Not sure why two different values are given either, but two other books that I have, but did not refer to in that information say the max depression is -5 degrees. it may be explainable in the various sub- types produced
But with the breakup of the Soviet Union, those tanks of the Warsaw Pact nations were available to NATO for evaluation
T-72 is similar only superficially. T-72 get several defeats vs newer/modernized western tanks no that available in the 60s (implicit time limit for the list)
however ammo load for T-64 was 36/38
The T-72 was 1st defeated by Western tanks in 1991, during the op. Desert Storm. There was no kills by Israeli tanks vs. T-72s in 1982 (Bekaa Walley), only TOW kills.
Welcome back, Vincenzo
A lengthy thread at the tank-net forum, that covers Soviet post war tanks, is well worth reading.
this is hotly disputed. the biggest problem is that the Israelis, for political reasons have never released the causes or results of the various battles that were fought in that war. Syrian sources are notoriously unreliable. All information relating to any losses, let alone the cause of those losses is from highly suspect and unverifianle seconadary and tertiary sources. Put simply, anybody who says they know the cause of a loss in that war is speculating, guessing or just makig it up, because the most important sources of information are not talking, and neverr have, or cannot be relied on as a reliable source.
Having said all that, Ive read that Syrian tank losses ran to the hundreds with nearly 400 T-72s committed. Not a single israeli tank has ever been admitted lost in those battles (thats not the same as saying they didnt lose a tank....they just arent saying) . If it isnt zero, it is at least known to be very low. This speaks volumes on the overall lack of capability of the Soviet tank.
On their own, they outnumbered the entire tank committment made by the israelis. That is a very poor combat record, whatever way you want to cut it. T-72s were similalrly cut to pieces in 1991 and as far as Im aware, have never won any battles of any strategic significance in their entire career.
The main AT weapon in that war was meant to be Israeli gunships, but the efforts of these weapons platforms was curtailed by the heavy presence of enemy SAM defences that severely curtailed Israeli air operations.
Id really like to know your sources for this claim, because Im not aware of any source that can be verified as to losses for either side.