love my thrustmaster hotas cougar, but to really make it as good as the real pilots use, you need to do a few mods to eliminate center play. It is still better than any of the cheaper stuff mentioned above and you can program it out the wazzu with actual programming code to do just about anything. It has a very stiff spring, but you can change that too as a do it yourself project. All metal construction - even the buttons, and the throttly portion of it is hands down the best made - period. Couple it with ch pedals to do rudder and you cannot go wrong. Next best is the ch products joysticks with thier throttle and pedals. Twisting joystics for rudder is no where near as accurate and is not very authentic/imersive. If you have only like $100 to spend get the ch joystick. If you look as it as an investment, go with thrustmaster cougar.