Best Jet of WW2?

• Jun 1, 2004

• #221

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cool

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #222

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Well the Germans threw everything that had at the Remagen bridge. And I actually think the bridge finally gave out not from any one attack but from the combined effect of all the attacks as well as all of the vehicles that were driven across.

I'm not sure about this, but a quick google search suggests that the first Me-262 to be shot down was lost to Spits of No. 401 squadron, Oct. 5, 1944. That may be a reference to first one down by Spits, or the British, or that squadron, I've got no idea.

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #223

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I doubt that would be the first, and not on the basis that the Spitfire was incapable because it certainly was. The date would still suggest that the P-47 achieved the first kill, then again this could be a 'headless' claim by the pilot.

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #224

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there were several attacks by jets of both Me 262 and Ar 234. As said it was a combination of near misses and the weight of Allied vehicles plus it did not help to have several Falk batteries opposite side of the riover firing at the bridge while the Allies were crossing it.

have a wonderful air account by ace Don Bryan who encountered 4 Ar 234's on different occassions, the last being one of the jets that bombed the bridge, swooped out and up and that was his demise, as Don Bryan rolled pulled up some ugly g's and peppered the jets engines...........

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #225

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just as clearly the Meteor should be out of the 'best jet' argument.

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and why's that??

it was a jet, and it was the best, so there's no reason to discount it..............

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #226

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but it wasnt the best, and thats the point weve been trying to get across to you for a long time 8)

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #227

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the lancaster kicks ass said:

just as clearly the Meteor should be out of the 'best jet' argument.

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and why's that??

it was a jet, and it was the best, so there's no reason to discount it..............

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Bets of all WW2 jets? you're kiddin' right? If I remember well the Meteor was good only for shooting down flying bombs, this doesn't make it the best. There's no question about the best for WW2 was the 262.

Cheers

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #228

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thankyou 8) lanc, no-one agreese with you. give it up.

 

• Jun 1, 2004

• #229

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I am quite curious as why you think the meteor is superior.......now don't have a cow, I am just asking in a civilizied way. Give some concrete reasons besides that it looks Kühl. References used ? pilot or ground crew interviews ? how many V-1's shot down ?

do some homework before you answer please...........

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• Jun 2, 2004

• #230

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If I remember well the Meteor was good only for shooting down flying bombs, this doesn't make it the best

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that's because it wasn't used for much else, if it had been used more as a fighter, it would have proved itself

 

• Jun 2, 2004

• #231

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thats because there wasnt really any need to use it as a fighter

 

• Jun 2, 2004

• #232

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lanc do yopu have the numbers of V-1's lost to the Meteor ? I am still interested in this..........

cheers

 

• Jun 2, 2004

• #233

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I wonder as we get back to the topic at hand..........

for the Ar 234, would you guyz be interested in this ?

http://www.merriam-press.com/mono_200/m318.htm

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• Jun 2, 2004

• #234

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Shooting down V-1s isn't even that impressive. The P-47, P-51, P-61, Spit, Tempest, and Mossie all shot down V-1s.

 

• Jun 2, 2004

• #235

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still curious though as to how many were downed by this little jet ....

 

• Jun 2, 2004

• #236

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I don't know how many the Meteor got but I've heard the Tempest actually scored the most kills against V-1s. Between the first V-1 launch of June 13, 1944 and Sept. 1st, the Tempest had destroyed 638.

 

• Jun 3, 2004

• #237

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that's quite a talley. I think and not having my P-61 data in front of me.........the P-61's knocked out some 20 or less. LG do you know how many were shot down by English AAA ?

 

• Jun 3, 2004

• #238

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No I don't. I think the P-61 total might have been higher than that. But there weren't that many P-61s based in Western Europe, just two squadrons I believe.

 

• Jun 3, 2004

• #239

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I'll check the 422nd and 425th records on the morrow.......... time for me to get some Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz as I am off to work at 5am

 

• Jun 3, 2004

• #240

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I don't know the exact number shot down by British AA but I know they found it very easy. After the first few they realised that the speed and altitude stayed the same which made easy prey for the 3.7 inch AAA.

I've seen some really good footage of the gunners making short work of the 'doodlebugs'.