Best post-MiG 21 single engined Soviet/Russian fighter or bomber?

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Verdammt, die Luftwaffe hat ihre Chance wieder vertan....
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Wrong black crossses… tsk tsk tsk

 

[special ed]

They are the newer, nicer, friendlier black crosses so as to not worry the neighbors.

 

[GrauGeist]

They are the newer, nicer, friendlier black crosses so as to not worry the neighbors.

Those are actually the older black crosses.

The black Cross Pattée was replaced with the "Balkan Cross" in 1918, which was then discontinued in 1945.

 

[SaparotRob]

It was crossed out.

 

[special ed]

But, old is new again. That's why they are the newer, nicer, etc.

 

[GrauGeist]

But, old is new again. That's why they are the newer, nicer, etc.

But they don't provide the speed advantage of the Balkan Cross.

However, they do look nice.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

They are the newer, nicer, friendlier black crosses so as to not worry the neighbors.

But they are not the best of the best, most superior of all Wunderwaffen black crosses.

 

[Ascent]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEf16SVwV44


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-ZePrgir4Q

I like this guy. Does a lot on Soviet stuff, but that's mainly due to his father being ex-Soviet air force. Also does other stuff though.

 

[Ascent]

Pedant hat on, it's Balkenkreuz not Balkan.

 

[GrauGeist]

Pedant hat on, it's Balkenkreuz not Balkan.

The term "Balkan Cross" has become the familiar English language term for the "black beam cross of Saint Michael of the Teutonic Order used by Prussia and Germany".

 

[Admiral Beez]

From what I've read, the MiG 23/27 were dogs,

Indeed.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A4LK6mtmZ3E&pp=ygUGTWlnLTIz

Well, that's where we must begin then, to make a better MiG-23. Start with the MiG-23MLD and proposed upgrades.

 

[bf109xxl]

Well, that's where we must begin then, to make a better MiG-23. Start with the MiG-23MLD and proposed upgrades.

Any improvements to the MiG-23 will compete with the production of the MiG-29 for electronic warfare equipment or a helmet-mounted optical guidance system. For the USSR, any effort to improve the MiG-23 with the MiG-29 in service is just a waste of money. The entire MiG-23 program was initially unrealistic. Huge efforts were invested in mastering technologies, which as a result turned out to be unused. Perhaps the E-8 was a more reasonable way of fighter evolution. But the USSR had its own laws of "unnatural selection".