Thanks for the endorsement;. I'll have to try and get hold of a copy.Arrow to the Future is a decent book, Walter Boyne did a good job in documenting the 262 story from historical documents and eye witnesses.
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Thanks for the endorsement;. I'll have to try and get hold of a copy.Arrow to the Future is a decent book, Walter Boyne did a good job in documenting the 262 story from historical documents and eye witnesses.
They are still doing it! A movie came out only last year called "iron Sky", where the Nazi's escaped and set up a base on the moon, returning to earth with futuristic weapons!!! and of course the Red Skull in the "Captain America" movie, with his Gotha style jet bomber and VTOL Focke wulf. The tesla towers that produce the magnetic field to knock the allied bombers out of the sky etc etc. I guess if you need bad guys to play a role, they are a natural choice. Nothing like a mad German scientist laughing maniacally in his castle on a stormy night......
Hi Waynos, thanks for getting back with that. There were a number of those luft 46 designs that showed great potential, but the rest, as they say, is historySorry for the long delay, yes it was the Tunnan, and it's similarity to the two German types has always made me wonder, especially given the later Lansen and it's own resemblance to another Messerschmitt design of 1945. Coincidence? Possibly.
My sons thought the same about the red skull in "Captain America", but he had gone that one step further! Trying to get back on topic though, does anyone think the FW Ta 152 is a contender for 'Best fighter" of March/ April 1945? It was finally operational in very small numbers at the close of hostilities, basically still at prototype stage with no spare parts. Combat records, all things considered, showed it to be pretty competitive with any and all opposition."Iron Sky" had me laughing my butt off. Nazis not only make great villains, but great subjects for satire.
Would anyone here be brave enough to attempt one
Just give a rough chronological order by dates on what fighters dominated WW2. Does not matter if the fighter is an Intercepter/Escort/Carrier fighter
The rules are the fighter truly dominated its air space at the time. It has to be reliable enough and built in reasonable quantity to be truly considered
For the record: The most successful US fighter in the ETO was the Mustang; the Warhawk in the CBI; the Lightning in the MTO; the Hellcat in the Pacific. In the ETO, the most successful fighter in the RAF was the Hurricane with 55% of all aerial victories, followed by the Spitfire with 33% of the victories, the remaining 12% being scored by a large variety of British and American fighters.
JAN 1940.............Spitfire/Me 109
.........................Spitfire/Me 109
JUNE 1940...........Spitfire/Me 109
.........................Spitfire/Me 109
JAN 1941.............Spitfire/Me 109
.........................Spitfire/Me 109
JUNE 1941............Spitfire/Me 109
..........................FW 190
JAN 1942..............FW 190
..........................FW 190
JUNE 1942............FW 190
..........................Spitfire IX/FW 190
JAN 1943..............Spitfire IX/FW 190
...........................Mustang P51B/C
JUNE 1943.............
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JAN 1944...............
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JUNE 1944.............
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JAN 1945................Me 262
............................Me 262
JUNE 1945..............Me 262
I think this Timeline is fairly accurate, maybe I could have still have put the 109 in after Jan 1942 ???? Then the only debate is whether the 262 was truly operational to be considered ? I will not even attempt the years mid 43 to 45. Just to many good fighters and too many arguments on this forum
Maybe someone else might give it a go?
my timeline
1939: Bf 109E
1940: Spit II
1941: Zero
1942: FW 190
1943: LA-5
1944: P-51
1945; Meteor
Meteor might be a strange choice, because people might say "why not the Me 262". It could easily go that way, but the development of the Meteor continued after the armistice and in my opinion overtook the 262 in its later configurations.
My choices are rather basic in nature and only based on general conclusions made while gleaning many an aviation book over the past 40+ years so I'm sure people here could easily find counter arguments to my proposals. I was only concerned with the air superiority role and how much the aircraft truly dominated and crushed their opposition in the locale/year specified:
European Theater:
1939 Bf-109E
1940 Spitfire II
1941 BF-109F
1942 FW-190A
1943 Spitfire IX
1944 Spitfire XIV
1945 Spitfire XIV
Pacific Theater:
1941 A6M2
1942 A6M2
1943 P-38G
1944 F6F
1945 P-51H
You just migt have a case concerning the Spitfire but the how did the P-51H "crush the opposition" without ever firing it's guns in combat lol?
My choices are rather basic in nature and only based on general conclusions made while gleaning many an aviation book over the past 40+ years so I'm sure people here could easily find counter arguments to my proposals. I was only concerned with the air superiority role and how much the aircraft truly dominated and crushed their opposition in the locale/year specified:
European Theater:
1939 Bf-109E
1940 Spitfire II
1941 BF-109F
1942 FW-190A
1943 BF-109G
1944 P-51B/C/D
1945 P-51D
Pacific Theater:
1941 A6M2
1942 A6M2
1943 P-38G
1944 F6F
1945 F6F