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Hello Soren,
I don't know Soren. By the time the USAAF would have send the B-29's to Germany (Thank God it never happened) it would have maybe been around August/September 45. Let's forget the A-Bomb – even though it was designed/meant for Hitler Germany – these Ta-152 which would not have been around in any significant numbers before September 45 would have had to face F-80's and British Vampires as B-29 escort planes rather than just US props.
Regards
Kruska
And why is it that you only see the uberAllies deploying their most advanced designs in combat? Any further protraction of the war would have had the Germans deploying a bigger number of improved jets to form welcome committees to slam the USAAF.
F-80's couldn't make the range to pennetrate deep into germany and still have enoughfuel to fight for any meaninful amount of time before turning back. (that's if they had the larger 230 US gal tip-tanks, with 165 gal, much less, with the 265 gal tanks also later used on the F-80 it might have made it. If it could have been modified to carry the 300 gal P-38 tanks it should have had the pennetration range -however, it would have required strengthening the wing, as the 265 gal tanks were already threatening to overstress the tips-)
That's if operating from England. From mainland Europe it's another story.
And the P-80 is the only allied jet with near the range required for escort.
Vampire Mk.I and (particularly) the Meteor are out.
Hello Soren,
I don't know Soren. By the time the USAAF would have send the B-29's to Germany (Thank God it never happened) it would have maybe been around August/September 45. Let's forget the A-Bomb – even though it was designed/meant for Hitler Germany – these Ta-152 which would not have been around in any significant numbers before September 45 would have had to face F-80's and British Vampires as B-29 escort planes rather than just US props.
Regards
Kruska
Then how come the uberGermans did not slam the USAAF to begin with?
Hardly Kruska. Had the war lasted that long the Ta-152H would've been in numerous supply,
Good grief Soren, production of the Ta152 couldn't even keep up with the needs of one Stab in JG301!
The only way for germany to gain the time needed to bring her advanced designs into the serius league was to somehow break the grand alliance ranged against her.
This could have been achieved in a number of ways, but as the war progressed germany's options became ever more restricted.....
I'm still waiting for soren's data tables...
But I don't think any of these a/c (in the original discussion) are "better" overall, as all have certain advantages and different optimal uses.
The Spifire and 109 being the best "dogfighters" specifically, but the others have their own advantages. Though at high speed (and using energy tactics) the P-51 is better. (generally more maneuverable at high speed -above ~350 mph- and retains speed and accelerates better compareatively than the others in this speed regime, and has a high crusing speed -giving initial speed advantage-)
The Fw 190 (up to D-9) is more maneuverable at most speeds than the Mustang up to medium altitudes. And very high roll rate. (significantly higher than others, at least up to medium speeds)
The 190A's alsa have a rugged radial engine.
Both the P-51D and Fw 190 have excellent all-around views due to the bubble-type canopies. (although view over the nose of the 190 is restricted)