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- May 13, 2018
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Your fold proposal reminds me of the later Seafires. Any chance your Sea Hurricane can have hydraulic folding wings?Finally got around to copying some of my old files and transferring them to my laptop.
Here are a couple of the side-view drawings of my notional SeaHurricane Mk III. As I mentioned in my post "Build a better Sea Hurricane 1938" the overall foot print would be 31' 2"L x 18' 6"W x 13' 1"H, so in the hangar the wings could only be folded or unfolded with them between the deep support beams.
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By how much does the overall height exceed 16ft (RN inter-war hangar height on most carriers) during the folding / unfolding process?
It would, true. I wonder why they bothered with the Seafire.Hydraulics could be fitted, but is the added weight, complexity, maintenance, and increased risk of damage and failure worth it?
So probably an opportunity to trim the wingtips a la F4U Corsair style to fit C&G, Ark Royal & 3 Illustrious class? 3 later ships are more of a problem.Hey EwanS,
Sorry, I missed your question until now.
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Nominal height with the outer wing panels vertical was 16' 3.5".
Most probably what I remember. The time,1960, sounds right. However, the F4U with wings folded, reminds one of the Custer Channel wings.There was at least 1 F8 Crusader that did that in Italy 23 Aug 1960 at Napoli Capodichino.
Used full after burner.
Chances of an F4U taking off with wing folded?
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And pilot not noticing?
F8 on the other hand
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Photo shopped or real?
Wing tips are much smaller and running light in afterburner there seems to be enough thrust?
Powered folding was only introduced early on in the Seafire 47 production run with its revised, stronger wing and much more power post WW2.It would, true. I wonder why they bothered with the Seafire.
As an aside, I found this folding setup interesting.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF7AwbuNB3Q
Sorry, calling BS.No. In Italy a USN F4U jock took off with wings folded and realised it and came around, may have landed, as I can't remember the end of the flight. The amazing thing was, how could he not have noticed the wings overhead. General thought was, too much "night before".
That pump sounds like it's running against the relief valve.Your fold proposal reminds me of the later Seafires. Any chance your Sea Hurricane can have hydraulic folding wings?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_2xd8zoFaM
Agreed. It's probably meant to be operated when the engine's running.That pump sounds like it's running against the relief valve.
Either a sea story that developed a life of it's own, or a typo ... hit a 4 when it should have been an 8.No. In Italy a USN F4U jock took off with wings folded and realised it and came around, may have landed, as I can't remember the end of the flight. The amazing thing was, how could he not have noticed the wings overhead. General thought was, too much "night before".
Those F4Us folded wings would create a LOT of downforce. It would never get off the deck.There was at least 1 F8 Crusader that did that in Italy 23 Aug 1960 at Napoli Capodichino.
Used full after burner.
Chances of an F4U taking off with wing folded?
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And pilot not noticing?
F8 on the other hand
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Photo shopped or real?
Wing tips are much smaller and running light in afterburner there seems to be enough thrust?
This is how the F4U Corsair transferred aileron movement across the wing fold. (Red rectangle in top photo added to highlight)Question for our AP Mechanics, how did the control wires keep tension when wings were folded and unfolded?
Obvious when you see it. The motion across the hinge line is transferred by linkages, and not wire rope. Thank you for sharing the photos! ( I design Satellites, not air craft)This is how the F4U Corsair transferred aileron movement across the wing fold. (Red rectangle in top photo added to highlight)
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We were rather lucky that as we were wandering past, some guy was wiggling the stick.
Photos taken at Oshkosh last week.