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Allied P-40 losses for the day were four, including one that was most likely due to AAA, as well as one heavily damaged and written off on landing and several others that were damaged and repaired.
Against this, there were Luftwaffe claims for 19 P-40s and one Spitfire.
Since a few experts and enemy fighter pilots doubted
the veracity of these claims, maintaining that there wasn't
even 26 aircraft in the air, here is the tally sheet from 1 September,
which was verified by the enemy:
Oblt. Marseille 0826 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Imayid.
0828 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Imayid.
" 0835 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Imayid.
" 0839 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Imayid.
" 1055 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
" 1056 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
" 1058 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
1059 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
" 1101 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
1103 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
" 1105 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Alam Haifa.
Oblt. Marseille 1747 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Imayid
Oblt. Marseille 1753 hrs, a Curtiss, SE of Imayid
it can be stated with certainty that the claims made by
Marseille and the entire JG 27 were correct. No one was
given credit for a kill without at least one eyewitness confirming
it.
..... I couldn't help but think of this....
He lies like an eyewitness. - Nietzsche
So Gentlemen, are we all agreed that the Merlin was the most iconic, versatile, useful and 'perfect liquid cooled engine' ?
Others come a mere second to Rolls Royce's masterpiece.
Cheers
John
John your worship of the Merlin is going to have me and perhaps others speculating that your descendants in centuries to come will worship the rusted hulks of Merlins as though they are relics equal in importance to the parts of "The True Cross" and the bones of the Saints.
Compare the DB 604 with the DB610 - a coupled pair of DB605s.
Max Power
2870hp @ 2800 rpm for sea level/take off
2560hp @ 2800 rpm @ 25,000ft
Climb and Combat
2550hp @ 2600 rpm for sea level
2400hp @ 2600 rpm @ 24,200ft
Max Cruising
2100hp @ 2300 rpm for sea level
2040hp @ 2300 rpm @ 23,000ft
Weight 3460lb/1569kg for C, and 3540lb/1606kg for D (opposite rotation).
So, the engine is slightly more powerful than the DB604 (200-300hp), but weighs more than 1000lb/454kg more, is wider, probably just as tall, but possibly not as long.
And what about DB-604 dimensions? I never learnt them - I haven't found a single source there they were discribed.
Performance numbers are in post #214 (ie three posts ago).
There is a wiki entry for the 604: Daimler-Benz DB 604 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cylinder dimensions are bore 135mm x stroke 135mm.
I've seen it. No common recource gives its external dimensions as far as I checked.
With the liquid cooled engine there are several options as to where the radiators fit - under the nose, under the fuselage belly, under the wings, wing leading edges, etc.
A popular option for the Germans was to use an annular radiator, which also enabled an in-line to be bolted up to an airframe originally designed for a radial (or vice versa).
The problem I see is that a V12 aero engine could get quite lonely inside a housing of the diameter of a radial.
That is designed to fit a space for a BMW 801, which is smaller in diameter than most of the allied big (powerful) radials.