De Havilland Mosquito (Wood vs. Metal)

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The two statements in bold are completely contradictory.
No, they are not.

The elastic modulus is the rate at which the material elastically strains in response to stress. The units are in pressure, pounds per square inch or Newtons per square metre. This, plus the geometry of the spring, determines the spring rate, normally quoted in pounds per inch or Newtons per metre of deflection. Functionally, the most important parameters of a spring are the free length and the spring rate.

The yield stress is the stress at which the material permanently deforms in response to stress. When the spring exceeds yield stress, it does not spring back to its original shape. This is quoted in units of pressure, pounds per square inch or Newtons per square metre.

Ultimate stress is the stress at which the spring breaks.

Not mentioned yet, but very important in valve springs, is fatigue stress. This value is plugged into a calculation that predicts failure after some number of load cycles. I am not sure how well this was understood during WWII. Iron and Steel stop fatiguing after some number of cycles, almost certainly at much lower stresses than springs work at. In absence of the fancy calculation, you can always fabricate springs and test them to destruction.

I can make three springs out of any grades of steel you want to try. They will each have the same spring rate. The ability of the springs to recover their original shapes after loading and after repeated loading, will be affected by carbon content and heat treatment.

Just for the record, some forty plus years after taking this stuff in college, I examined a fabrication drawing of a spring we use at work, I worked out the spring rate, then I identified some springs in a catalogue that would perform the same function. The application is way less critical than a Rolls Royce Merlin valve spring.
 
I am fully aware of the units used in tensile testing, I did them for almost forty years. Are you saying that a quenched Martensitic structure has the same Youngs Modulus as a quenched and tempered fine grain Bainite structure? The "yield" is defined by the portion of the stress strain curve that changes from elastic to plastic, usually by a given total extension (0.5% total extension on the specs I worked to), or a given off-set to the straight line (0.2% proof stress to the specs I worked to).
 
Gee, thanks for making me feel old. Wasn't published until more than a decade after I started engineering school.
 
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Just for my own edification, can you give me an example of a "quenched and tempered fine grain Bainite structure"?
 
Interesting article from 1943:

Problems Affecting the Use of WOOD in AIRCRAFT
By ROBERT W. HESS
CHIEF OF WOOD AND PLASTICS RESEARCH, CURTISS-WRIGHT CORPORATION, BUFFALO, N. Y.
From "Mechanical Engineering" Vol 65 Number 9 Sept 1943
 

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Just for my own edification, can you give me an example of a "quenched and tempered fine grain Bainite structure"?
Any seamless oil or gas linepipe made in a modern factory to modern specifications like API 5L Gr X60 or X65 Factories I worked at that produce such material in the last 30 years are Tamsa Mexico, Dalmine Italy, Vallourec Aulnoye and Rouen, Mannessmann Dusseldorf.
 

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