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It is a PZL 43A for Romanian AF.

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Found this older post, as a note to the previous one:
In fact this is a Bulgarian PZL 43 in early (before 1941) national markings.
Below some more photos of the same type during the early period. The "Karas" was called "Sea-gull" in Bulgarian Royal Air Force:
PZL-43B.jpg

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pzl43-02.jpg
 
Found this older post, as a note to the previous one:
In fact this is a Bulgarian PZL 43 in early (before 1941) national markings.
Below some more photos of the same type during the early period. The "Karas" was called "Sea-gull" in Bulgarian Royal Air Force:
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Oh ... certainly it is the Bulgarian national marking. Mea culpa. I thought Bulgarian but wrote Romanian. A good catch. :wave:
The post edited. :)
 
Oh ... certainly it is the Bulgarian national marking. Mea culpa. I thought Bulgarian but wrote Romanian. A good catch. :wave:
The post edited. :)
Thanks Wojtek! I don't know the Polish airplanes very well, but caught the "Bravery Cross" which I know from different Bulgarian a/c.
Can you please check this post as well:
You wrote it's a PZL.43 in the next post, but isn't it a PZL.46 Sum? I even think this is the same a/c as shown below:
pzl-46-sum.png
 
Thanks Wojtek! I don't know the Polish airplanes very well, but caught the "Bravery Cross" which I know from different Bulgarian a/c.
Can you please check this post as well:
You wrote it's a PZL.43 in the next post, but isn't it a PZL.46 Sum? I even think this is the same a/c as shown below:
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No, it is one of the PZL 43As captured by German at the Okęcie airfield in 1939. The plane was parked at the PZL factory and was damaged by the Polish 7TP light tank during Polish counterattack. The PZL 46 Sum was of more streamlined shape including the wheel spats without the landing light. What is more, the propeller had the spinner while the PZL 43 didn't. The PZL 46 Sum had also the double rudders at the tail that there aren't seen in the pic above.
The PZL 43A captured atthe Okęcie airfield
PZL43A.jpg

the pic source: Zdjęcie naszego samolotu część 8

The PZL 46 Sum ...
PZL46.jpg

the pic source: the net.
 
No, it is one of the PZL 43As captured by German at the Okęcie airfield in 1939. The plane was parked at the PZL factory and was damaged by the Polish 7TP light tank during Polish counterattack. The PZL 46 Sum was of more streamlined shape including the wheel spats without the landing light. What is more, the propeller had the spinner while the PZL 43 didn't. The PZL 46 Sum had also the double rudders at the tail that there aren't seen in the pic above.
The PZL 43A captured atthe Okęcie airfield
View attachment 830602
the pic source: Zdjęcie naszego samolotu część 8

The PZL 46 Sum ...
View attachment 830643
the pic source: the net.
Thank you for the explanation! Obviously the photo I posted was mislabeled in my "archive" - I'm sure I downloaded it from the internet as the link shows.
 
No, it is one of the PZL 43As captured by German at the Okęcie airfield in 1939. The plane was parked at the PZL factory and was damaged by the Polish 7TP light tank during Polish counterattack. The PZL 46 Sum was of more streamlined shape including the wheel spats without the landing light. What is more, the propeller had the spinner while the PZL 43 didn't. The PZL 46 Sum had also the double rudders at the tail that there aren't seen in the pic above.
The PZL 43A captured atthe Okęcie airfield
View attachment 830602
the pic source: Zdjęcie naszego samolotu część 8

The PZL 46 Sum ...
View attachment 830643
the pic source: the net.

We can add that the photo labelled "PZL 46 sum" obviously shows a twin row radial. But the PZL 46 had a Pegasus engine, a single row one... , while that of the PZL 43 was a Gnome-Rhone 14N 01, a double row 14 cylinders.
 
Thank you for the explanation! Obviously the photo I posted was mislabeled in my "archive" - I'm sure I downloaded it from the internet as the link shows.

No problemo. Here is the next shot of the PZL 43A with the smashed tail. IIRC there are the images of the another one taken in the hangar but the kite had the outer wings dismounted.

pzl43_.jpg

the pic source: Zdjęcie naszego samolotu część 8
 

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