feasibility of keeping WW I battleships around for WW II.

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Don't call them ugly Bro.

They out trying to live their best life. They trying their best. Makeup and wine and it's in the lap of the gods.

Sinking of Glorious alone probably pays for the manufacturing so they got back plenty in return. 11 inch guns no good but they worked it.

I will say Renown was well armed and fast. Can't hit what you can't chase. So in open water Renown can run away nicely. Maybe after Jutland I be wanting 12 inches of armour. But Renown was fast for a big girl. Just like Jackie Fisher likes em.
 
I will argue for New Zealand as a thing but Renown....ok you got me.

I cannot really justify Renown in its 1916 form.

Why have 15 inch guns unless it's going against something big and minimum threat would be Derfflinger.

Armour wise the Renown is nothing. Cannot take even a single punch. Yeah faster than Derfflinger but one lucky hit and it's boom time.

So I will give you that one. Can't argue with that.
 
Ships as deterrent.

I would say more ships equals more deterrent so johnny foreigner has a new wrinkle to think about before he dares to tangle with the Empire.

So thickness of armour is not important if Johnny foreigner is cowering under his bed by the sheer undiluted might of the RN.

Indefatigable, New Zealand and Australia may have been glass cannons but they were 3 Dreadnought armoured cruisers and 3 more than the Kaiserliche Marine had to account for.
 
Don't call them ugly Bro.

They out trying to live their best life. They trying their best. Makeup and wine and it's in the lap of the gods.

You Brits were the ones as nicknamed them the "Ugly Sisters", take it up with Dudley Pound or someone ... bro.

They were fairly weak battlecruisers but good for the Germans to put on a "right, but now we're serious" show. Getting lucky with the Glorious having incompetent leadership ain't much of a feather in the cap of a pair of "battleships". Shit, they ran from an R-class [edited to add: actually, the battlecruiser Renown]. Color me unimpressed.

All the praise these things receive set aside, with 11" guns they were bringing knives to a gunfight.
 
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Not what you got but what you do with it.

Not saying the Scharnhorsts were god tier but their service history was pretty good.

Had the 15 inch guns installed as per spec then pretty spectacular.
 
Not what you got but what you do with it.

Not saying the Scharnhorsts were god tier but their service history was pretty good.

Had the 15 inch guns installed as per spec then pretty spectacular.

Yeah, those fifteens would have made them damned good.

The Germans got some good service out of the ships, true. Imagine the Uglies armed with 15s stumbling upon Renown.

On the other hand, they often took damage from the weather. Not a good look for anything alleged to be a battleship.
 
I did not know that.
Yeah, even after being modified with the Atlantic bow they were shaky. Forgive the use of Wiki but it's quick and in this case accurate:




Pretty fragile for "battleships", especially BBs which were obviously required to operate in the North Sea and the North Atlantic.
 
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The Scharnhorst type came about from the earlier idea that Germany would have to be able to attack shipping between France and Poland
as well as being able to deter any attacks or landings along the German coastal area. This required fast ships which could run easily from
larger types but could also easily take on smaller types - mainly cruisers. As a result they had excellent firepower against most enemy
shipping but it came at a cost in rougher seas. Scharnhorst suffered forward turret flooding in heavy seas and water easily came over the stern
as well.
 
Nice to have against cruisers, but useless against battleships.

Classic definition of a battlecruiser.
I am trying to formulate a reply.

I can mention that some battlecruisers were better than some earlier battleships?

Derfflinger v Nassau?
Weak sauce I know but that's all I got.

I guess if you have to run away the you ain't no battleship. I actually like your reply and trying my best not to agree with you.
 
I think your wrong.
 

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