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Let that be a lesson for you. When you imply by comparison the Hellcat was ugly, those are fighting words.Well it seems my deliberate attempt to be ironic was taken waaayyy too literally and created quite a kerfuffle. However, the "simple maths" is now looking more complex as we caveat it by a minimum number of sorties and as a cross-section of entire aircraft production (although I'm not sure the latter is entirely valid - combat sorties, yes, but aircraft production isn't entirely relevant since many aircraft never actually flew on combat operations).
Ah well, must learn to be less subtle next time and put big, flashing "I'M ONLY JOKING" signs at the beginning and end of my post.
Let that be a lesson for you. When you imply by comparison the Hellcat was ugly, those are fighting words.
Jabberwockey,
Where are you finding the data? Does it have victories, losses broken out and sorties available? Would you post the source so I can look at it? If so, Thanks!
Nuuumannn, are you playing a game? I think you are. I think you're playing the How-Could-It-Have-Been-Improved game. I think that explains why you think I'm kidding. I'm not.
Cobber,
If your rugby team loses, the circumstances don't matter ... you lost. It's the won and lost column that counts. Same for the Hellcat. It PERFORMED when the it was all on the line ... better than anything else did. Ergo, Hall of Fame performance that reads better than anything else that flew. What else do you need? Infinite replays like the 1972 basketball Olympics until your side wins?
Why not post figures including bomber and fighter victories, AAA, enemy A/C losses, and combat operational losees, and non-combat losses to back up your assertions? C'mon, I posted all that above.
Show me otherwise without the noise about quallity of opposition and all that stuff. It achieved what it acheived. So did the Soviets, Japanese, Germans, Italians, etc. Numbers don't lie unless they are lies in themselves, and these aren't. We're not talking about flukes in sports. This was combat, for life and death. Nobody "gave" the other side anything or "threw" the game. They won or died ... or sometimes flew home if they could get away from the other guys.
You're brutal. But yeah, it does!Truth hurts, dunnit!?!
You saved me from looking it up.No worries VBF. Box of fluffies then? (That's slang for everything's good - in case you're wondering.)
Darn, I was just going to mention that! It's like you read my mind.What was the opinion of the Spitfire of the US pilots who flew them?
What was the opinion of the Spitfire of the US pilots who flew them?