ID of an airplane

[hawkeye2an]

This photo came up on a local (St Joseph, MO) Facebook Page. I am usually the guy that IDs airplanes for the group. I am fairly sure it is some type of Lincoln Standard. Any help?

 

[Wurger]

IIRC there has already been someone who asked obout the plane.

 

[GrauGeist]

IIRC there has already been someone who asked obout the plane.

I agree - it was a few years back.

 

[SaparotRob]

And a few years back, it was identified as a….?

 

[Wurger]

And a few years back, it was identified as a….?

As memo serves we didn't find any definitive answer at that time .

 

[GrauGeist]

As memo serves we didn't find any definitive answer at that time .

I beleive we determined that it was a Lincoln-Standard L.S. 5:
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[Wurger]

That's true. We did. But there are still doubts .... anyway the aircraft has a lot in common with the Lincoln Standard kites judging by the shape of its basic parts..

 

[SaparotRob]

Something about the windows were in question, I think.

 

[MikeMeech]

This photo came up on a local (St Joseph, MO) Facebook Page. I am usually the guy that IDs airplanes for the group. I am fairly sure it is some type of Lincoln Standard. Any help?

Hi
This image of an Ansaldo A.300/C (page 393 of 'European Transport Aircraft since 1910' by John Stroud) appears not to be an exact fit for your image but it looks closer to it than the images on line for the Lincoln-Standard L.S.5:

Do you know the location of where your image was taken? There is the small airship shed behind the aircraft, are you sure it is in the USA? If not the search may have to be widened.

 

[GrauGeist]

There is the small airship shed behind the aircraft, are you sure it is in the USA?

That's a Hay Barn, which were fairly large and common through the mid-west back then.

They were large enough, that an airplane could fly through them - hence the term "barn storming".

 

[MikeMeech]

I beleive we determined that it was a Lincoln-Standard L.S. 5:
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Hi
Problem is the L.S.5, according to image on wiki, looks like this:

Mike

 

[GrauGeist]

Hi
Problem is the L.S.5, according to image on wiki, looks like this:
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Mike

There were so many custom variants, however.

The main items of focus, were the tail empanage, unique exhaust and the aerodynamic "tank" on the upper wing.

Here is a photo of another Lincoln-Standard L.S.5 (taken from the thread linked above):

 

[MikeMeech]

This photo came up on a local (St Joseph, MO) Facebook Page. I am usually the guy that IDs airplanes for the group. I am fairly sure it is some type of Lincoln Standard. Any help?

Hi
Another close but maybe not exact match in all respects appears to be the "modified Standard biplanes", wiki has an image:

This has a number of differences as can be seen, but another image from page 36 of 'Airlines of the United States since 1914' by R E G Davies, has slightly less differences:

But still not an exact match, it may depend on how many modifications this type had in its career or it may still be an entirely different type?

Mike

 

[hawkeye2an]

Hi
Another close but maybe not exact match in all respects appears to be the "modified Standard biplanes", wiki has an image:
View attachment 837271
This has a number of differences as can be seen, but another image from page 36 of 'Airlines of the United States since 1914' by R E G Davies, has slightly less differences:
View attachment 837272
But still not an exact match, it may depend on how many modifications this type had in its career or it may still be an entirely different type?

Mike

The one I posted is a 2 1/2 bay plane and that is what's really throwing me. I know Lincoln-Standard out of Nebraska produce a lot of modified Standard aircraft and Rosecrans Field here in St Joe used a lot of them.

 

[hawkeye2an]

Hi
Another close but maybe not exact match in all respects appears to be the "modified Standard biplanes", wiki has an image:
View attachment 837271
This has a number of differences as can be seen, but another image from page 36 of 'Airlines of the United States since 1914' by R E G Davies, has slightly less differences:
View attachment 837272
But still not an exact match, it may depend on how many modifications this type had in its career or it may still be an entirely different type?

Mike

The wing from that bottom one matches up well with my pic, closest thing I have seen, thanks