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Seriously? You think +25lbs boost sans ADI is "derated"?
That boost level was as good as it got, & those late mark Merlins were significantly 'uprated' mechanically to hack it..
Are you sure you are not thinking of post-war service, where engines usually had to make do with 100/130 juice
(& really needed the 150 grade - to pump that hard), were 'derated' accordingly?
Did they operate at +25psi post war, or did they use +18psi?
Exactly..
On the British side that was probably because the first jet to take to the air was substantially faster than the RAFs front line fighter, it did 350MPH on its first proper flight tests in 1941 and a fastest of 505MPH in 1943. Other nations made exactly the same judgement, the era of props was over, they would fill in niches and still do.
Actually, if you read the RAF's appraisal of the early Meteor's combat capability,
'damned by faint praise' - just about sums it up (while carefully phrased in 'must please the boss' terms)..
I was, it flew with a variety of engines, since it was the first it was the equivalent of the Wright flyer, but still did 505 MHP.I believe pbehn may have been talking about the Gloster E28/39. The Meteor didn't fly until 1943.
I think you are deliberately missing the point, the fact that it achieved a speed and height that was beyond the best piston engine planes in its first version meant piston engines were obsolete as soon as they could be sorted and put in service.Was that "505mph" the wee Gloster's 'Flying Limitation Speed' - by any chance, pbehn?
AFAIR, wartime Meteors had a similar 'Pilot's Notes' advisement, whereas Gloster
also built thousands of Typhoons - which were good for '525mph' - by the book..
I think you are deliberately missing the point, the fact that it achieved a speed and height that was beyond the best piston engine planes in its first version meant piston engines were obsolete as soon as they could be sorted and put in service.
In 1944, that is 3 years after the first UK jet flew. The Tempest was developed from the Typhoon, the design of the Typhoon started in 1937 the same year that the Sabre first ran, and decades after the first internal combustion engine.Actually IMO, its you who is "missing the point"..
Sure, turbine-power was the future for fighters..
but none of the operational wartime jets made fully practicable warplanes..
& 2nd TAF Tempests hacked down every type of LW turbojet flying, something no Gloster jet did..
Ah, no.. the "2,640hp version of the Merlin" was a test unit, & was not "available" for service use..
The +25lb boost power-setting was - as has been noted - dependant on the use of 150 grade av-gas..