Losses of the IR of Iran Navy during Iran-Iraq War

[dmitry shevchuk]

I read about IRINS Mehran was sunk at this date (11 sept 1982) Ok, its error, but really Mehran was lost at any date?

 

[ARTESH]

I read about IRINS Mehran was sunk at this date (11 sept 1982) Ok, its error, but really Mehran was lost at any date?

Gunboats of "Tiran" Class "IRIN Mehran" ( Nav-Sarvaan Hamid-reza Eftekhari-Nia) & "IRIN Tiran" (Nav-Sarvaan Faraamarz Barimani) were lost 18 Oct. 1980.

Thier loss was a great tragic for Iranian navy and air force! Cause they were sank by Phantoms!
I've heard that pilots were sentenced to death! but not sure when and where!

 

[ARTESH]

Some photo of Iranian Titanic:

Technical Info:

An old photo:

Damaged Ship:

Source of photos:

Persian

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Yes, I good know story of Rafaello and only one question is about it losses - missile was launched from Super Frelon or Iraqi missile boat?

 

[ARTESH]

Yes, I good know story of Rafaello and only one question is about it losses - missile was launched from Super Frelon or Iraqi missile boat?

No one!
she was hit by IrAF (Iraqi Air Force).

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Bombs from jet fighters?

 

[ARTESH]

Bombs from jet fighters?

Yes.

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Interesting. I read Iraqi Navy former comander Abid Mohammed al-Kabi interview, hi write:
The second stage, from 21 November 1982 through 8 February 1986, represented an offensive stage. We attacked the Iranian ships near Kharg, Bushehr, and the southern
part of Kharg, using our missile boats and Katyusha rocket launchers.
... We began offensive operations, when I became commander of the navy. For the first operation, I decided to attack ships in the Bushehr area. We sent three attack boats to
troll for targets between the Persian Gulf base and the Khawr Abdullah channel. Then, they changed course towards Iran. The operation lasted 20 hours, and the missile boats
launched six missiles and sank five ships.
... On the first mission, the missile boat, broke down approximately nine miles from one of the Iranian oil fields.
We considered two different
courses of action to help him: we could tow the boat back, or we could send spare parts to
the boat by helicopter. In the end, he used pipes from a fire extinguisher to replace the fuel lines and used a hand pump to fill the main tanks of the engine. The main pumping system had failed and was not sending fuel to the engine. After repairing the boat, Ali turned back and two other two boats carried out the mission. They fired six missiles and sank five ships. We targeted one Indian tanker, two Greek merchant ships, one Iranian merchant ship, and an Iranian yacht.
... We fired from a distance of 35 kilometers. We gradually increased the size of our operations. We attacked all the oil fields in the Bushehr area. During this second stage of
our mission, the navy completed 178 attack operations and sank 102 tankers and 145 merchant ships.

Interesting - Iranian yaht - it was a Rafaello? Any other merchant ship losses 20-21 nov 1982 is known?

 

[ARTESH]

During Operation Morvarid, Iraqi Navy was almost destroyed.

Not sure about dates, but according to what I know, they used some fishing and other unarmed vessels to replace with lost / damaged ships.

About story he told, almost half of it, is lie.
Convoys were escorted by 5 ships, 1 destroyer, 1 of Kaman class vessels and 3 smaller 65ft coastal guard gunboats. Plus that, we had at least 2 planes, 1 F-14 and 1 F-4 / 5 and 1 ASW Naval Aviation chopper.

Also, there is no record of loose of 5 ships in 1 day/night.

Both Iran and Iraq, were using Decoys .so it's possible some of those ships, were decoys, or even were missed.

During Convoy wars, records say 292 ships were attacked, 29 of them were sunk.

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Of cource Iraqi claims is much more than real Iran losses, but Iran also many overclaims! In the Morvarid operation was sunk only two iraqi missile boats (by aviation attack), all iran-iraq war - only 4 missile boat was lost by Iraq. In 1980 Iraq have 12 Missile boat and in 1984 was reinforced by 2 missile ships from USSR - of course Iraqi navy was not destroyed in Morvarid, but Iran have a superiority at sea in 1980-1982, especially in cooperation with Air Force and Naval Aviation.

During Convoy wars, records say 292 ships were attacked, 29 of them were sunk

As I searh merchant ship story in 1980-1983 - victims of Super Frelon launched Exocet and placed by helicopter sea mines - also many ships was not sunk, but declared as CTL (Construction Total Loss) - and written off.

 

[ARTESH]

Of cource Iraqi claims is much more than real Iran losses, but Iran also many overclaims! In the Morvarid operation was sunk only two iraqi missile boats (by aviation attack), all iran-iraq war - only 4 missile boat was lost by Iraq. In 1980 Iraq have 12 Missile boat and in 1984 was reinforced by 2 missile ships from USSR - of course Iraqi navy was not destroyed in Morvarid, but Iran have a superiority at sea in 1980-1982, especially in cooperation with Air Force and Naval Aviation.

As I searh merchant ship story in 1980-1983 - victims of Super Frelon launched Exocet and placed by helicopter sea mines - also many ships was not sunk, but declared as CTL (Construction Total Loss) - and written off.

I totally agree with you.

They wanted to dismiss army , and they would do anything to reach their goals ...

Yes, I know what they had, and what we had too . But they needed a propaganda ...

So they made stories about their own ones ... For example, they say Dowran, had sunk 20 vessels, alone !!!

Unfortunately, books must have an islamic propaganda option to be printed.

This Fucking shit, islamic propaganda affected everything.

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Hi!
IRIN - Navy, but IRGC - ?

 

[ARTESH]

Hi!
IRIN - Navy, but IRGC - ?

Terrorist supporting organisation created after 1979!!!

Responsible for Iran's today situation.

Pan arab, pan islamist, pan terrorist, made up from traitors!!!

Islamic Republic Guards Corps.

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Thanks, IRGC have "Asil" ship? (rag aground under missile atack in july 1983?)

 

[ARTESH]

Thanks, IRGC have "Asil" ship? (rag aground under missile atack in july 1983?)

till 1986, Irgc hadn't Navy, maybe Gendatmerie Ship. But they didn't have names. Only numbers. Or maybe ship's captain name too. It was used as an id for non military ships to pass guards and patrols.

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Second part of article about Iraqi SA-321 Super Frelon (russian) - Иракские SA-321 Super Frelon в Ирано-иракской войне. | Militarizm

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

ARTESH, can You check iranian sources for iraqi Super Frelons shot down claims by next dates:
4 aug 1981, 1 aug 1983, 1 aug 1984, 16 jan 1987?

Iran threatens wider war in response to Iraqi threat
'We're preparing a warm welcome for the Super Etendards,'' Colonel Moinipour , the head of the Iranian Air Force, said recently. He says that his men will be able to neutralize the Super Etendards. He contends that the Iranian Air Force has already shot down 10 Super Frelon helicopters which also were equipped with Exocet missiles.

Colonel Moinipour , the head of the Iranian Air Force - it is correct name?

 

[ARTESH]

ARTESH, can You check iranian sources for iraqi Super Frelons shot down claims by next dates:
4 aug 1981, 1 aug 1983, 1 aug 1984, 16 jan 1987?

Iran threatens wider war in response to Iraqi threat
'We're preparing a warm welcome for the Super Etendards,'' Colonel Moinipour , the head of the Iranian Air Force, said recently. He says that his men will be able to neutralize the Super Etendards. He contends that the Iranian Air Force has already shot down 10 Super Frelon helicopters which also were equipped with Exocet missiles.

Colonel Moinipour , the head of the Iranian Air Force - it is correct name?

Hi dear Dmitry, I'll do my best to find info about requested dates.

And, yes, Colonel Moinpoor, was commander of IRIAF from 21 Shahrivar 1360 to 4 Azar 1362.



List if Iranian air force commanders since 1979 till today.

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

Thanks!
Back to "Asil" ship. I searh this ship - it is iranian merchant (bulk carrier) ship with IMO 7395210, was hit by iraqi Exocet in July 1983, but precize date not known by me. Ship stranded to coast and written off

Artesh, You have any image of "Kahnamoui" (№84)? I have only sisterships image

 

[dmitry shevchuk]

3 part about iraki Super Frelon:
Иракские SA-321 Super Frelon во второй половине Ирано-иракской войны. | Militarizm