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Okay. Thank you: I get the idea.
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Okay. Thank you: I get the idea.There are nuance differences between Japanese and English.
Sentai (戦隊) is translated as Fighters Unit but "戦"(sen)" itself means Fighting.
There were many army sentais which were organized by bombers or attackers with no fighters.
I withdraw that comment: after several trips over the mountains to the Mae Hong Son area, we've determined that two separate reports of P-40 yet-to-be-discovered crash sites from different sources actually describe Flying Tiger McGarry's P-40 crash site near Mok Cham Pae, but from widely separated towns. (His P-40 was hit during a 1942 attack on Chiang Mai Airport, then under the control of the IJAAF; he eventually had to bail out to become a POW. The crash site was discovered in 1991; shortly thereafter much of the wreckage was taken to Chiang Mai where it is now on display in a Tango hangar at the airport. That it took almost 50 years for hunters to come across the crash site indicates its remoteness.)Yet another crash site in northern Thailand: at some point in the near future, we are hoping to locate the wreckage of a P-40 long ago reported to be in the mountains of northern Thailand and identify it. . . .
Any photos of it on display?Or is it in storage
See ThaiAviation.com: <Tango Squadron Museum Chiang Mai> and Wanderling photos at <TANGO SQUADRON AIR MUSEUM, CHIANG MAI>
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I get the dreaded "404" error when I try to follow the link for "What Kind of Plane Is This?"...Continuing with the theme, Old Thailand Aircrashes:
Japanese Railway Construction Division 2 was responsible for construction of the Thai-Burma Railway. Its first commander was Major General Shimoda Nobuo, 下田宣力. He and nine others were killed when the aircraft in which they were conducting an aerial inspection of the work crashed on the Thai side of the Thai-Burmese border on 26 Jan 1943.
The crash site was located after more than three weeks search near Mount Mayanthong [summit N14°50 E98°15] and then "lost to time", to be rediscovered about 40 years later. The wreckage was then brought out to be eventually exhibited at the Thailand Railway Hall of Fame, from perhaps approximately 1990 to 2012. The exhibit was written up on one of the 2bangkok forums in 1999, and can still be viewed in the site's archive at What Kind of Plane Is This?. The aircraft was identified as a Ki-21, by a member of the Rao Lack Rotphai, an organization of railway enthusiasts in Japan.
As noted in the "afterwords" of the article, the museum closed in 2012 and the display is now unaccountably lost.
Some questions.
1: does anyone know where the display (if it still exists) might now be / might be stored / might be kept?
2: The aircraft wreckage had been identified for the museum as that of a Ki-21 by a Japanese of uncertain expertise. However, two other Japanese, also with uncertain expertise, subsequently viewed the exhibit and insisted that it was a Ki-48. It is not clear how that number of people could be accommodated on a Ki-48 and be able to view and to evaluate work on the ground. The Japanese Embassy in Bangkok is said to have investigated the crash site around 1980 (Micool Brooke, Captive of the River Kwae (Merman Books, Bangkok, 1995); p.83). Umemoto does not list the crash (梅本弘,ビルマ航空戦 (東京:大日本印刷株, 2002)). Hence this question: might the aircraft model designation be recorded and available in Japanese documentation somewhere, hopefully along with additional details?
3: Is anyone familiar with the Japanese organization, Rao Lack Rotphai? And, if so, can contact information be provided? Perhaps some members know where the display might be stored at present.
More questions may arise as we investigate further.
I thank you.
Hak Hakanson
Chiang Mai
Not necessarily custom but looks a better dicision for his family than finding a piece of pebble in the urn, which was popular in the Pacific War.the practice of bringing back only the small finger of a dead person from an area difficult to access; for example, a dead soldier in a remote area --- is that a custom from ancient times or more recently evolved?
Yes, it will be my honour.Thank you, Shinpachi. Sobering. The tactic, if accurately described, worked. As at Omkoi, skill, courage, dedication, in the extreme, were rewarded at Mae La Luang: the crew of two suffered only minor injuries.
I will include the detail, with your comment, on the webpages for both events. With apologies, for clarity, could I restate your response as:
I have heard a similar story. It is possible because pilots tried to help/rescue friends even at the risk of their own lives.