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I would normally have given you a bacon for that, but in this case with the Mafia aspect of it -- would you prefer Capicola, Sopressata, or Genoa Salami instead?Never knew WWII was a mafia war, did you?
He's a member here? What's his handle?I would have assumed most people here see Greg's videos the day they come out and that one came out two weeks ago. Are Greg's videos not appreciated here? This is a sincere rather than rhetorical question. I thought he was a long time commentor as well, but was never sure it was the same guy.
Nah, only the good stuff: Prosciutto or nothing!I would normally have given you a bacon for that, but in this case with the Mafia aspect of it -- would you prefer Capicola, Sopressata, or Genoa Salami instead?
I'm not sure I can countenance such an oversight, I'm asking the mods to ban you for a week as punishment...I don't know how, as a New Yorker, I could have forgotten about Prosciutto
I do not know about pressurization. I have workd a bit on aircraft drop tank systems and the jet drop tanks are pressurized by regulating the 150 PSI bleed air down to about 12-13 PSI with a back-up feature in the regulator. We had a problem with an F-105F climbing out of Savannah that started to stream fuel very heavily and the AB caught the fuel on fire; the crew punched out and one did not survive. We found that some genius at the ALC had decided to stop changing out the auxillary fuel tank pressure regulators on a time compliance basis because "it was too much trouble." The result was there was an unknown number of regulators in the fleet that could fail at any time and in which the backup feature had sat there unmoving so long that it was frozen. Failure of the primary regulator would put 150 PSI into the tanks and that might be what occurred with that F-105F. We could not be sure that had occurred but we were sure that we had a bunch of regulators that could fail at any moment and told the F-105 units to not fly with drop tanks or the bomb bay tank operational. An F-105 without those tanks has a normal endurance of about 30 min.
In WWII the US used the exhaust of the vacuum pump that drove the flight instruments such as the artificial horizon and directional gyro. This would have been no more than 2 to 3 PSI. That is what forces the fuel out of the drop tank; there are no pumps in it. I would have thought that all the drop tanks used that same approach, so I am surprised that 200 gal tank was unpressurized.
in the carbonara there is neither Bacon or Prosciutto, sure never Prosciutto, you need pig cheek for the carbonaraI don't know how, as a New Yorker, I could have forgotten about Prosciutto -- especially since I'm a big fan of Carbonara (that said, bacon is sometimes used in lieu of Prosciu... I think I understand now).
No point in keeping a paper tank, they couldn't be re used.Dumb question:
Once empty, did Mustangs (or Thunderbolts and Lightnings) punch off their tanks as a matter of course or did they keep them on when RTB if no combat?
I've read where Iwo based Mustangs would keep the 165 gallon tanks after emptying them because they were a bit hard to come by.
Agreed and thank you, I was actually thinking more of the 75 Gallon metal tanks, but I suppose there really was no reason not to punch them off when empty regardless.No point in keeping a paper tank, they couldn't be re used.
Agreed and thank you, I was actually thinking more of the 75 Gallon metal tanks, but I suppose there really was no reason not to punch them off when empty regardless.
Thanks GregP, I had long wondered.Hi Guys, the Greg in the video is not me, GregP. Seems like a decent video, but I didn't make it.
I appreciate Greg doing all of the research to set the record straight regarding various aspects of the fighters used in Europe and the Pacific. I have been aware of the misinformation regarding the "range" comparison of the P51 vs the P47 using drop tanks since I first started reading accounts of aircraft performance over 50 years ago as a boy. I believe the Mustang, while being a great fighter, is very over rated compared to the Thunderbolt and gets that reputation by comparing the P51 of 1944 with the P47 of 1943 and completely ignoring the thunderbolt advancements of 1944 & 45. Greg finding that order from Hap Arnold stopping the purchase of drop tanks clears up a lot of the mystery of what was going on in 1943 regarding fighter range.IIRC, one of the 'virtues' of the paper tanks was that they were of no use to the Axis when dropped, as they could not be reused/recycled, unlike the aluminium tanks.
Well I don't think it was normal to take a tail gunner/camera man on ops in a P-51.Note that the paper tanks were not the only ones used in the ETO, For shorter range missions, such as for covering the withdrawal phase of missions and for photo ops, they often carried the 75 gal metal tanks. That famous picture of LOUIV in formation was a photo op, which explains not only the tanks used but also why it is such a incredibly good photo. It was taken by a professional using professional equipment from the waist gun position of a B-17. And in that case they kept the tanks on.
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Well I don't think it was normal to take a tail gunner/camera man on ops in a P-51.