Hello, I've recently found some pieces of aluminium at the former ww2 airfield y29. At one piece there's standing the Aluminum code. Alclad an-a-13 24st. As seen on a history channel about the dogfights on the 1st of January 1945, there were flying p51mustangs and p47 Thunderbolts. As heard there would have been a p47 shot that was still standing on the ground. Can anyone help me please?
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Dag Jorn,
Interesting parts found! I'm Kris, and live in Belgium (en Limburger). For years I'm doing research of the airfields Y-29, Y-32 and the Bodenplatte crashsites. My dad made the stone monument situated in the Woods at the former runway of Y-29 (for the council of Zutendaal).
Greetings
Interesting parts found! I'm Kris, and live in Belgium (en Limburger). For years I'm doing research of the airfields Y-29, Y-32 and the Bodenplatte crashsites. My dad made the stone monument situated in the Woods at the former runway of Y-29 (for the council of Zutendaal).
Greetings
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Hey Kris, i live in the forest in Zutendaal at 300 Meters of the monument. So your always welcome to see these parts and some other interesting things I've found there the last years.
Greets Jorn
MiTasol
2nd Lieutenant
Good day Jorn
Have a look for part numbers and inspection stamps on the parts. They identify the type and to a lesser extent the sub-model but be warned vendor parts carry vendor numbers. EG turbo-supercharger parts on the P-47 have GE numbers and stamps.
Mustang numbers are constructed of the NAA model number the part was first used on followed by five or six digit part number, and sometimes a subpart number of 1 to 3 digits - 83-31826-300 is an early wind-shield assy but wind-shield 106-318226 is used starting on the P-51D-5 NA. Later aircraft changed again
The ww2 model numbers for the P-51 include 73-, 83-, 97-, 99-, 101-, 102-, 103-, 104-, 105-, 106-, 109-, 110-, 111-, 122- etc so if you find a 106- number the aircraft was a P-51D-5 or later
To add to the confusion you may find 16- or 19- etc parts as a small number of BT-9 and T-6 parts were used on the Mustang. For a full list of P-51 NAA design numbers see P-51 Mustang Production - MustangsMustangs.com
P-47 part numbers are constructed completely differently. 2 digits, a letter, five digits, a dash, one or two digits, and, if left or right the letter L or R. For example ing tips are 89T24000L or R. Vertical stabilizers are 89J55000-50, -51 or -52
Happy hunting
Lets know if you find other numbers and I may be able to identify them. Many companies had numbers that have distinct characteristics
Have a look for part numbers and inspection stamps on the parts. They identify the type and to a lesser extent the sub-model but be warned vendor parts carry vendor numbers. EG turbo-supercharger parts on the P-47 have GE numbers and stamps.
Mustang numbers are constructed of the NAA model number the part was first used on followed by five or six digit part number, and sometimes a subpart number of 1 to 3 digits - 83-31826-300 is an early wind-shield assy but wind-shield 106-318226 is used starting on the P-51D-5 NA. Later aircraft changed again
The ww2 model numbers for the P-51 include 73-, 83-, 97-, 99-, 101-, 102-, 103-, 104-, 105-, 106-, 109-, 110-, 111-, 122- etc so if you find a 106- number the aircraft was a P-51D-5 or later
To add to the confusion you may find 16- or 19- etc parts as a small number of BT-9 and T-6 parts were used on the Mustang. For a full list of P-51 NAA design numbers see P-51 Mustang Production - MustangsMustangs.com
P-47 part numbers are constructed completely differently. 2 digits, a letter, five digits, a dash, one or two digits, and, if left or right the letter L or R. For example ing tips are 89T24000L or R. Vertical stabilizers are 89J55000-50, -51 or -52
Happy hunting
Lets know if you find other numbers and I may be able to identify them. Many companies had numbers that have distinct characteristics
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Found some numbers, could this possibly be from a mosquito?
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MiTasol
2nd Lieutenant
Damn
I cannot recognise any of those numbers and a check of the USAAF interchange manual from Dec 43 finds not one number that follows the single letter followed by a variable number of digits.
That suggests either something later or something British or European.
There is an aircraft archaeology web site Welcome to Aviation Archaeology which may be able to assist. If you do identify the parts please post here so we can all learn
I cannot recognise any of those numbers and a check of the USAAF interchange manual from Dec 43 finds not one number that follows the single letter followed by a variable number of digits.
That suggests either something later or something British or European.
There is an aircraft archaeology web site Welcome to Aviation Archaeology which may be able to assist. If you do identify the parts please post here so we can all learn
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Benevolens Magister
Can't help with identification, but the style of the numbers and the way of stamping certainly looks British.
Mosquito is a possibility - that oval plate looks slightly familiar.
Perhaps Andy (Crimea River) can help, as he's involved in a Mosquito restoration, among others..
Mosquito is a possibility - that oval plate looks slightly familiar.
Perhaps Andy (Crimea River) can help, as he's involved in a Mosquito restoration, among others..
Crimea_River
Marshal
Part numbers for the Mosquito start with a single letter followed by the number 98 (for DH98 the official design serial for the Mosquito) followed by 1 or more further numbers or letter/number combinations. You have a part number N8897 (last 2 numbers are not too clear) and another that looks like L988340 or L986340 or L968340 or...... The latter, if it is indeed L98XXXX could be Mosquito but I don't have a drawing in my files corresponding to these permutations. However, I only have about 20% of all the drawings. The next step I took was to plug in L988 and L986 as a wild card in my Illustrated Parts Manual and got no hits that resembled any of the potential part numbers. N8897 doesn't look at all Mossie to me.
If you can ascertain with certainty that one or more of your parts starts with a letter followed by a 98 then there's a good possibility it's a Mosquito part but I can't give you more than that with the info I have at hand. Our group is waiting on the completion of the cataloguing of 20,000 odd the Mosquito drawings recently found by the People's Mosquito Group in the UK (also on Facebook). Ross Sharp at that organization could by a help if you can confirm Mosquito identity as I've described.
Do let me know if you can decipher the numbers more clearly.
If you can ascertain with certainty that one or more of your parts starts with a letter followed by a 98 then there's a good possibility it's a Mosquito part but I can't give you more than that with the info I have at hand. Our group is waiting on the completion of the cataloguing of 20,000 odd the Mosquito drawings recently found by the People's Mosquito Group in the UK (also on Facebook). Ross Sharp at that organization could by a help if you can confirm Mosquito identity as I've described.
Do let me know if you can decipher the numbers more clearly.
