pre WWI US Navy and Army flying machines

[flypaper2222]

Some very early pictures of US military aircraft. First up US Navy Burgess AH-7 and the last 3 AH-10, mostly Pensascola Florida pictures.

 

[Gnomey]

Good shots!

 

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Burgess-Dunne AH-10 with a more refined crew area and armed. I've treated these to a seperate post.

 

[herman1rg]

That's a very early swept wing

 

[SaparotRob]

Take that, Horten brothers.

 

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Take that, Horten brothers.

Those are my thougts completely

 

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The aeroplane that saved early US Army aviation
In 1914 US Army pilots trained at San Diego field. Pilots were trained on a mixed bag of different aircraft some of them Wright pusher types. Because of being trained on this mix it caused accidents and deaths. I'm not sure what person or organization brought about the change but in 1914 fourteen Martin TT aircraft repalced the mixed bag.Training improved as pilots flew only this single type. From what I've learned it credits the Martin TT with saving early USArmy aviation.

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

Note the interstitial ailerons to avoid legal issues withe the Wrights' patent. Curtiss came to a similar solution.

 

[special ed]

Another new term for Rob.

 

[SaparotRob]

Another new term for Rob.

And if elected, I will serve not only my term but all my financial backers.

 

[Gnomey]

Nice shots!

 

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Looks like an eary Curtiss ready to be hoisted aboard or secured under the curious eyes of hr ships company

 

[Dana Bell]

Good call - That's Glenn himself coming on board Pennsylvania on 18 January 1911. And so began US naval aviation...

Cheers,



Dana

 

[MikeMeech]

Hi
For those interested in early US Army, Navy and Marine aviation this book might be of interest:

The US was quite 'late' in its interest in the Dunne machines, here is the first page of the 'Dunne' section in 'British Aircraft Before the Great War' by Michael H Goodall & Albert E Tagg:

We should not forget the Dunne D.6 swept wing monoplane (from 'British Aircraft 1809-1914' by Peter Lewis):

Mike

 

[Thumpalumpacus]

From my visit to Pensacola this last March --

Curtiss A1 Triad:

Curtiss NC4, the first one to cross the Atlantic:

Cutaway of a Curtiss Jenny. One of my favorite features was their presentation of cutaways to show interior features:

 

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N1 a 1918 US Navy patrol floatplane that was designed to carry the Davis recoiless cannon. This aircraft was the first to be both designed and built by the Naval Aircraft Factory, but the program was canceled due to poor performance and several crashes. In the 2nd picture it looks like it means what its doing. Nothing delicate about it.

 

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US Navy Richardson A82, Early Navy marking of blue anchor.

 

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Thomas A21 and A20 "A" designation was used to denote Navy purchases. As i understand it A20 and A21 would be th twentyith and twentyfirst aircraft in service with the Navy

 

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Curtiss Triad 1911

 

[MikeMeech]

US Navy N1, I'm thinking it was built in house. In the 2nd picture it looks like it means what its doing. Nothing delicate about it.



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Hi
Didn't this first fly in May 1918 and crash on its maiden flight?

Mike