Thank you sir. Joe was saying it was a later 109. We can still see where this 109 prop had a yellow stripe. But since it was a little longer than our other 109 props, it had me raising an eyebrow. It is about 57" end to end, and about 7" at its widest part on the base. And the 190 U/C leg just happened to be next to it (working on both). I've got a hub for the 190 as well that still needs cleaned up. But I'm just finishing the Hs 129 up (hub and 1 prop...looking for 2 more props to go with it). I'm probably going to do the 109 hub next because we have 3 blades to go with it. So that will be a nice large display once I get into it. I'll leave you with a couple pics of that Ratier hub now that it is basically done. Just need to mount a display for it on the wall somewhere. You guys said it was likely from a M.S. 406 or a D.520, but we never had any of those at our airfield. So I had to dig into our book and see what it could have been. And we figured out that Ratier was from a Henschel Hs 129. Shame I don't have both hubs, since it was a twin engine plane; but it will still make a nice museum display. The 2 spots where there isn't paint is where the part numbers were stamped on the prop, and I didn't want to paint over those (in the one pic). Cheers.
Hi,
This is quite a tricky blade to identify, with only partial information, but there was enough for me to do it, using original information.
The blade number on the base looks as if it would possibly reveal more details (numbers) with careful work, but that is a skilled trick, and it is possible to destroy the marks with incorrect cleaning methods. Also, there is no detail about the Hub? The hub should reveal it's ID numbers. The steel hub had a light-alloy data plate riveted on to the front outer face of the hub centre. This is likely to be missing. However, the hub has the data also stamped onto the same front area, just behind the front propshaft opening. These stampings usually survive, unless the corrosion has removed considerable metal. Searching these numbers would be the best data, if any are still readable! Sometimes, knowing where they are is important.
So, what have we got? Not a lot! Photo's with no measurements to start with, but the puzzle does fit a solution.
The marks visible on the blade base are: a 715 Inspectors stamp, a Ps in a circle makers stamp, W.Nr 12.957 and above that, 1200?
The 1200? will be preceded by a 9, giving 9-1200?
The photo's show an early/mid war blade shape, not wide chord or paddle. The VDM blade root fitting/bearing (Flugel-lagerung) has locking screw holes in the outer lock-ring (Konusmutter).
Referring to the VDM manual, the only production blade that matches the 9-1200? is the 9-12004.10/.11 blade fitted with the 9-1177.41 Flugel-lagerung with the screw holes. This blade was only fitted to the Bf 109 F3/F4 with DB 601 E engine. The complete prop assembly was the 9-12010A with the 9-12010.31 Hub.
The hub data plate and stamped numbers would be, Gerate 9-12010A and 9-12010.31.
The extra info is useful. 57" end to end is 145cm, correct for the 3m dia of the 9-12010A propeller assy. As said, the blades would have been Dark Green, any other stripes or yellow tips would have been added after capture. The Hub would probably have been red primer and Dark green painted. The blade root fitting/bearing would have been bare metal/plated.
It would be very interesting to see the hub and any numbers/plate? Also, happy to help with similar on the "Fw 190" blades and hub.
Eng