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Maybe to add to the discussion - the cruising speeds in mph at 15000 ft (at most economical speed vs. at max weak mixture power):
-Wellington IA - IC (Perseus): 165 - 195
-Hampden (with external bombs; I don't have other data): 155 - 200
-Whitley VII (Merlin X): 165 - 195
-Blenheim I: 165 - 200
And we know what happened to the Blenheim over Europe...
That won't do as Germany must have more fighter aircraft to combat the greater aerial threat.
The wellington Hampden and Lancaster suffered disastrous losses in daylight raid(s) also.
Wellington and Hampden yes, Lancaster no. There were some raids that paid a heavy price certainly, but there were others which did very well. On the 17th October 1942 94 Lancaster's bombed Le Creusot in a daylight raid without any escort and one was lost. On the 24th October 1942 88 Lancaster's did another unescorted daylight raid on Milan and four were lost.
how early would they have realistically been able to get the mustang mk1?
The US budget for fighters was used up so it was ordered as a "dive bomber"
With an Allison engine it would struggle as an escort.
As a complete surprise? How does peacetime (1930s) Britain fund such a massive project complete with production facilities for engines and airframes without it becoming public knowledge? Not even Stalin's Soviet Union could prevent other nations from monitoring construction of his military industrial complex.
As a complete surprise? How does peacetime (1930s) Britain fund such a massive project complete with production facilities for engines and airframes without it becoming public knowledge? Not even Stalin's Soviet Union could prevent other nations from monitoring construction of his military industrial complex.